Billingsley Fab 9" weights broken down
01-28-2005, 03:18 PM
#23
I was going to do my 12 bolt (new gun drilles axles, flanges, ect..)
But I decided in the long run, this would be the best solution.
I always see alot of weights thrown around (not just rearends)
and I post ACTUAL weights not "people say this much" and when
I do it, it usually comes in heavier.
I will re-dyno the car, but I will have new headers on it,so that may skew a couple HP.
I know for a fact that this rearend IS lighter than my 12 bolt with a spool.
My car was not by Billingsley,and I don't need a FAST intake to run mid 9's.
167# is better than what I expected, I am more than happy.
You guys can debate if it's worth it,if a 12 bolt takes less HP to turn it,
durability, leaks and everything else.I am just posting up the weights.
If I was to build another F body, this is the ONLY rearend I would buy.
But I decided in the long run, this would be the best solution.
I always see alot of weights thrown around (not just rearends)
and I post ACTUAL weights not "people say this much" and when
I do it, it usually comes in heavier.
I will re-dyno the car, but I will have new headers on it,so that may skew a couple HP.
I know for a fact that this rearend IS lighter than my 12 bolt with a spool.
My car was not by Billingsley,and I don't need a FAST intake to run mid 9's.
167# is better than what I expected, I am more than happy.
You guys can debate if it's worth it,if a 12 bolt takes less HP to turn it,
durability, leaks and everything else.I am just posting up the weights.
If I was to build another F body, this is the ONLY rearend I would buy.
01-28-2005, 03:43 PM
#24
Well my 12-Bolt doesnt leak,have any problems as of now.IMO u are comparing a lite 9in to a standard 12-bolt.Its not a true fair comparo but I agree the 9in is stronger and as long as your happy w/it then it was a good decision.I weigh things on a digital scale too so when I give weights on MY car there exact
Last edited by JS; 01-28-2005 at 05:45 PM.
01-28-2005, 04:12 PM
#25
Originally Posted by JS
Well my 12-Bolt doesnt leak or has any problems as of now.IMO u are comparing a lite 9n to a standard 12-bolt.Its not a true faid comparo but I agree the 9in is stronger and as long as your happy then it was a good decision.I weigh things on a digital scale so when I give weights on MY car there exact too
Of course a FAB 12 bolt would be lighter, it's smaller.
But the 9" will take more abuse, and i'm ALL about abuse.
01-29-2005, 12:08 AM
#28
Originally Posted by JS
I just got off the phone w/Moser and comparing apples to apples....
The cast housing 12-bolt vs a cast housing 9in is......12-bolts lighter by at LEAST 50lbs.
Now they told me a FABBED housing will really help with weight but its not gonna be that much of a difference if u put a nodular center in the Fabbed housing.I agree,that if u wanna build a superlite Fabbed 9in it will be lighter than a 12-bolt but u should at least let people know what your comparing or people could be mislead.
FACT,My 12-bolt is lighter and takes less hp to turn than the a 9in.
The cast housing 12-bolt vs a cast housing 9in is......12-bolts lighter by at LEAST 50lbs.
Now they told me a FABBED housing will really help with weight but its not gonna be that much of a difference if u put a nodular center in the Fabbed housing.I agree,that if u wanna build a superlite Fabbed 9in it will be lighter than a 12-bolt but u should at least let people know what your comparing or people could be mislead.
FACT,My 12-bolt is lighter and takes less hp to turn than the a 9in.
yes, i think it does. LOL. sorry, it's late and i'm tired. Dave
01-29-2005, 09:17 AM
#29
Moser has never built a fabbed 9in so they couldnt give exact weights.I agree that the debate continues but I do take there opinion pretty honestly and if they tell me the standard iron 9in is heavier than my 12-bolt I think I'll believe them,after all its common sense
Now for a lite fabbed 9in. version,no doubt its lite...
Now for a lite fabbed 9in. version,no doubt its lite...
04-07-2005, 11:10 PM
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I personally think that MOSER isn't worth a crap when it comes to 9in rear ends. I went thru hell with them when I ordered my 9in. It was damaged when I recieved it, damaged again when I got it back, and then they left off the tq arm bracket.. I know 2 different people here locally that have Moser 9in's that are also screwed up. Both of them have brackets welded on them in the wrong place. 1 guy had to cut his off and re-weld it and the other guy hasn't messed with his yet since he basically got it for free. I haven't put mine in the car yet so who knows if its gonna work out..
Oh yeah, a Moser stock length housing without axles or a center-section weighs in at 70lbs. Thats all I know..
Oh yeah, a Moser stock length housing without axles or a center-section weighs in at 70lbs. Thats all I know..
12-30-2005, 11:32 AM
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So we haven't gotten a true weight on a spooled 12 bolt versus a Fabbed 9"?
Maybe Jay can chim in on the weight differences between his drag 12 bolt and his Fabbed 9", spool to spool of course.
Maybe Jay can chim in on the weight differences between his drag 12 bolt and his Fabbed 9", spool to spool of course.
12-30-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DERTY
My 12 bolt spool moser setup was 100 pounds heavier than Jay's 9". Sway bars included. I had the 33lb BMR Extreme duty sway bar on my 12 bolt. 
If that's true, I'd be
Like I said, maybe Jay can chim in.
Thanks.
12-30-2005, 08:06 PM
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Nope, wasn't hard to believe at all. 33lbs of Swaybar versus roughly 5, nodular cast center section versus plate steel, ultracase and spool weighed more than the original 12 bolt spool, axles were 3 pounds lighter per side. I could curl a 12bolt housing but would struggle. I could do several reps with the 9" housing. They were that different.
12-30-2005, 08:47 PM
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I've had both a Moser 12 bolt and a Billingsley fabbed 9", both are good rear ends. I prefer the 9" to the 12 bolt, I think the Billingsley rear end is a better quality peice overall but mine leaks.
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12-30-2005, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DERTY
Nope, wasn't hard to believe at all. 33lbs of Swaybar versus roughly 5, nodular cast center section versus plate steel, ultracase and spool weighed more than the original 12 bolt spool, axles were 3 pounds lighter per side. I could curl a 12bolt housing but would struggle. I could do several reps with the 9" housing. They were that different.
Damn.
