Remove front bumper?
Remove front bumper? Im so confused, Im into weight reduction but what is remove the front bumper? Is there something under the cover that can be removed in a car that is driven on the street but not a daily driver? Lets just say I dont care about the safety issue can I drop some pounds up there? I want to keep abs and my ac but the bumper thing has me thinking I would like to put my fat *** convertible on a diet. You know the doors weigh about 7 tons I know because my last f-body was broad sided and the door really held up, but thats a whole different story. Bumper tell me about it.
there is an impact bar there that some people cut off and also a rear. in the doors are side impact bars that can be cut out ad well if you really are going on a diet. though if you drive your car everyday then be reall carefull.
look around behind the bumper cover with your hood up. you can't miss it. but like snack charmer said, gotta be more careful when you're out and about. minus that bar, the only thing between the item you hit and the motor is just the radiator, fans, windshield sovent bottle, and radiator core support. after that, it's your motor that will absorb the rest of the impact aside from your hood and fenders of course. i am going to be removing mine soon, but it's a difficult decision as far as safety goes.
I've had mine out for along time and feal complelty comfortable on the street. I'm acutally pulling my door bars today too so we'll see how that goes. The only way the imact bar would really help is if you where to hit a pole or something dead center. Rear ending somebody you'd probrably be fine cause the rails stick out and they seem to be pretty strong. It's not to hard taking it out. Pull the bumper cover and foam and simply unbolt the impact bar, no cutting involved.
Here's a pic of it gone.
And the bar itself.
Here's a pic of it gone.
And the bar itself.
wow and you cant even tell! all this can be put back ? The door bars work , I was hit in the side in my last f-body at approx. 45 pm only injury I received was glass in my hand. I was squeezing the steering wheel so tight. It was kinda a bizaar accident but I was at 45 mph too. Thanks for the info
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It doesn't sag and it doesn't seem to deform at the top of the track. Well, atleast I havn't heard that it does from anybody and there is no spider webbing in the paint from flex. I left the upper support in and my front ground effect seems to help hold things togethor on the bottom. The only part that is really felxable is infront of the tires, and that's only because I took out the inner wheel wells and those two lower plastic pieces that you can see in the pic above.
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Verdad Gallardo I think it would probrably be ok. Once you get the nose off the car for the first time you can do it again in 15-20 minutes, so if you think your getting flex it's no problem to go back to the way it was. You will need 3 nuts and bolts though. The underside of the bumper cover and the bottom of the plastic in front of the radiator attach to the bottom of the impact bar. All you have to do is bolt them togethor, you could probrably even zip tie them if you wanted.
I would not take out the rear support on a street car. It's really the only thing between the back of the car and the gas tank, that stamped trunk area really isn't strong either. You can probrably trim it though, I think it extends into the wheels wells alittle so it would probabrly be no big deal if you trimed both ends off.
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removing the support alone isn't going to help much, its a combination of parts thats going to help
!support
!swaybar
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The nose of my car comes up a lot more noticably in the street and I have a bit more traction, of course there still is a fine line between spinning and holding onto traction. The car is a bit easier to drive when racing on the street.
At the track she hooks A LOT more consistantly than before. I'll see how she holds up to 7000rpm clutch dumps next time out...
removing the support alone isn't going to help much, its a combination of parts thats going to help
!support
!swaybar
Batt. relocation
The nose of my car comes up a lot more noticably in the street and I have a bit more traction, of course there still is a fine line between spinning and holding onto traction. The car is a bit easier to drive when racing on the street.
At the track she hooks A LOT more consistantly than before. I'll see how she holds up to 7000rpm clutch dumps next time out...
Originally Posted by sscam68
fwiw
removing the support alone isn't going to help much, its a combination of parts thats going to help
!support
!swaybar
Batt. relocation
removing the support alone isn't going to help much, its a combination of parts thats going to help
!support
!swaybar
Batt. relocation
Originally Posted by GM Muscle
I would not take out the rear support on a street car. It's really the only thing between the back of the car and the gas tank, that stamped trunk area really isn't strong either.
I too would be interested in a few detailed pics of locations of bolts needing removed for bumper cover, I can do mechanical work but never been a body man this kinda falls in that realmn
Get the headlights and brackets out first and unplug the DRLs and also pull the clips in the top support. Then crawl under the car and pull all the bolts hoding the plastic to the underside of the nose, also reach way up under the bumper and pull the 3 push clips while your there. There are two bolts (one on each side) that holt the cover to the very front of the fender, and then there are 6 bolts (3 per side) along the bottom edge/side of the fender (that seem where the bumper meets the dender). It's nice to have an extra set of hands when taking it off so you don't bend the nose to much, if not just grab it dead center top and bottom to get if off. When your reistalling those side bolts make sure you line everything up and don't over tighten them. If you do the fender and side of the nose will look all wavy.
I dropped mine today and took it for a spin. Not very impressed. Taking the sway bar off did a lot more ( I've done it before, so I know what to expect ). I had a close encounter of the idiot kind while on my ride however, he pulled out and I had to brake hard.
I went ahead and put it back on ( for now ). When my car is no longer a daily driver, I'll pull both of them, but for now, .05 off of my ET is not worth the risk. There's a bunch of idiots around here.
Thanks to GM Muscle for the info, BTW.
DroptopWS6: It's not a hard thing to do at all. Take all the little plastic push rivets out (5 up top, 3 underneath). Then there are 4 10mm bolts per side holding on the cover. One you can see, the other three are under the fender (You'll see what I mean). Unhook all your wires, and then take loose the bottom bolts in the black plastic. You should be able to handle it after that.
I took the headlights and their brackets out, since my hands are big, I had a little trouble getting to the three bolts along the fender, and the bracket got in the way too. I guess you'd just have to see how it was for you.
I went ahead and put it back on ( for now ). When my car is no longer a daily driver, I'll pull both of them, but for now, .05 off of my ET is not worth the risk. There's a bunch of idiots around here.
Thanks to GM Muscle for the info, BTW.
DroptopWS6: It's not a hard thing to do at all. Take all the little plastic push rivets out (5 up top, 3 underneath). Then there are 4 10mm bolts per side holding on the cover. One you can see, the other three are under the fender (You'll see what I mean). Unhook all your wires, and then take loose the bottom bolts in the black plastic. You should be able to handle it after that.
I took the headlights and their brackets out, since my hands are big, I had a little trouble getting to the three bolts along the fender, and the bracket got in the way too. I guess you'd just have to see how it was for you.
