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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Anyone running aluminium rods?
I wanna run these and need to get some info.(weights, machining,brand.ect)

Any info would be appreciated.

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Manley, Bill Miller, GRP. AL rods are a good thing. Most hard core races change them every 100 passes. Some prostock cars change 20 to 25 passes. It is not worth the risk of failure. With most AL rods in a Ls1 the oil pan has to be notched a little depending on your stroke. Most of the rods come machined and only need to be pin fitted.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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We ran them in the Livernois engine at Thunder last year. We have a couple more engines that have them in it as well. They work really well. GRP's are the only ones that we've been using.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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We ran them in the Livernois engine at Thunder last year. We have a couple more engines that have them in it as well. They work really well. GRP's are the only ones that we've been using.
How long did you run them for? How much (if any) did they stretch after use? Thanks, Shawn
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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I'll have to get more details for you. I will say that they are not for street use after we've had some conversations with GRP. To much heat cycling in daily driving will ruin them. We have plenty of passes on them. There are also a fair number of cars here locally that run Aluminum rods in their 2000+ HP SSO cars.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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the ones ive seen are very light and the people are usually running them 200 passes or so. so bassically change them every season
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Groden makes really nice rods and I've seen them go 400+ passes in a 8000RPM SBC and they didnt break.
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I have used GRP aluminum rods in two GEN III LS1s (both shop car engines) with great luck. We got ~150 passes out of the first set before the motor was torn down after the season. Everything looked great. I'm sure there was some life left in the rods, but there is no point in pushing them if you don't need too, especially for their replacement price and the cost of a new motor if one lets go.

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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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There are plenty of aluminum rods out there that will last a long time. The rods life depends a lot on how many RPM you will be turning and how much power you will be making, as well as how heavy the piston is.
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damn, those look REALLY nice..
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason99T/A
I have used GRP aluminum rods in two GEN III LS1s (both shop car engines) with great luck. We got ~150 passes out of the first set before the motor was torn down after the season. Everything looked great. I'm sure there was some life left in the rods, but there is no point in pushing them if you don't need too, especially for their replacement price and the cost of a new motor if one lets go.

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Jason,
Who does your coating on the pistons, etc? Thanks.
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HO Racing's Ken Crocey recommends Bill Miller alluminum rods in all his high performance street/strip Pontiac 400plus cubic inch motors.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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I used Bill Millers in my 471 low deck dodge that made about 650hp. This motor was shifted at 6600. I changed them around 300 passes. Never a failure. I think if you're gonna rebuild each season anyway, which I think a fast bracket car should, you might as well go aluminum. It's hard to beat light weight and strong.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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What is the gram weight of the GRP rods? Are they just a SBC rod?

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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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www.grpconrods.com

The weight of a 6.125" SB1000 rod with standard rod bearing and .927 pin is right at 470 grams.
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The coatings are all from Polydyn.

When ordering, you just need to let them know the rods are for a LS1 and are "on-center"/no off-set. Other than this, it is pretty much a SBC rod if you are using a 0.927" pin and 2.100" journal diamter.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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what does a set of aluminum rods run these days? i havn't priced them in several years.
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