ZFan88

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At 90mph what gear are you in with an M6 and close to stock? And what speeds do you shift out of each gear at if you don't mind answering

GTA91

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When shifting at redline (about 6k) I believe my WS6 was about like this with a T56 and 3.42s....

1st gear, max 45mph
2nd gear, max 70mph
3rd gear, max 100
4th gear, max 130
5th gear, max ????


*Those are pretty close.

-Jeremy

ZFan88

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Thanks for the help. I have some foxbody with gears and exhaust telling me he beat a 99 LS1 with gutted airbox and 1.8rr's until 90mph (or into 4th gear as he says for him), then the LS1 started pulling...so of course I called BS

jyeager

Not sure if you meant 90mph in a certain gear...in 6th at 90 I believe I'm at 1900 rpms.

ZFan88

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I'm talkin about while racing. He's saying his friend in the LS1 didn't start pulling on him till halfway through 4th at 90mph...from a 30 roll

GuitsBoy

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That was pretty close for 6K.

My gear calc says the following for a stock redline @ 6200 RPMs

1st: 52.01 MPH
2nd: 77.73 MPH
3rd: 106.42 MPH
4th: 138.35 MPH
5th: 186.96 MPH
6th: 276.70 MPH (maybe on jackstands)

ZFan88

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nice. just helped to prove my point even more. thanks

jyeager

Well, 90 would be halfway through 4th gear for a mustang. And since they are geared lower it's not unlikely that they would beat the LS1 out of the hole. (although I raced a 5.0 once and we were side by side until he shifted to 2nd gear at 20mph! after that it was bye bye).

ZFan88

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They started from a 30mph roll though. Wouldn't that be nice for the M6 LS1?

Sorry, 35mph roll

ZFan88

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I'll make it easy, lol...here's what was written

Raced my buddys 99 ls1 camaro with my 90coupe. his mods are gutted airbox with KNfilter 1.8r/r .My mods are65mmtb 75mm pro-m mass air sensor l ongtube headers w/ h-pipe fender mountcold air 373 gears .Did it 3 different times, first time went on the 3rd honk at a 30ish roll from 2nd gear. I pulled a door and a fender through 3rd gear to about75.He missed third .2nd race a little more even 35 roll I pulled sligthtly we let off for traffic.3rd time ,roll at 35mph I pulled fender and a door stayed in it this time, when I went into 4th he started to pull me back got me by a good fender.Had a blast, I need more power

jyeager

I don't see a 5.0 with those mods touching a stock LS1, but shifting does have a lot to do with it. You never know if the LS1 driver was shifting well, or at the right RPMs.

dogger

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I'll cal b.s. on this one for you. I have a stock m6(by stock I mean stock everything including catbakc and lid.) and a buddy of mine has a modded 88 gt 5.0. the 5.0 has a built botom end for nos but none on it. it has fully ported head's e303 head's 80m throttle body and intake. header's and full dual exhaust. also 3:73's with a five speed. I've run this car it's highly modifidy and done well. I could only pull on him marginable and I mean marginable when we raced. 1/4 therre is less then 1/2 car lenght difference. if either of us screw's up the other takes the race. so any time he want's to race tell him I'm in pa and ready. with some more work done to his car he "might" win but it takes more then he's got.

ZFan88

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That's why I called BS. I asked how the driving was before anything, and he said his LS1 friend is a good driver. That was enough for me, lol

Zman420

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wow, this sounds almost identical to me and my buddy when we ran. heres the facts...
my car- 2000 m6 z28- mods- gutted air box, 1.8 crane golds, free mods.
his car-90' foxbody 5.0- mods- E cam, long tubes, aftermarket maf, 3.73's, not sure about TB. think thats it.

we did a 30 mph roll, heres what happened (have video to prove it)...
first run- he pulled me to his rear fender immidiedtly, ounce my car got into the powerband(above 3k rpm's) he immidetly came right back (about even) then he had to shift, so he went back to about my rear fender and right as i was going to shift into 3rd my clutch pedal stuck to the floor !!!!

we did it again and same thing happen with my clutch!

the third time is when i finally got into 3rd and pulled away, but not to say that it wasnt close.

The thing you have to realize is at 30- 35 mph the m6/ls1 is under 3k rpm (closer to like 2500) and the stang is probly like 3500-4000 rpm.
hes in his sweet spot where as were not quite in our power band. (thats why he got the initial "pull" every time.but the cool thing is is that were still in secon pulling them back when they have to shift to third, wich means bye bye.

but it all boils down to the fact that the stang , with those mods , even tho its less power , also has alot less wieght. his is like 3200-3300 where is mine with t- tops, sub ect. is probly around 3700 if not even more.
power to wieght ratio is there for the lil turds but are m6 keeps us in the game Im not going to lie , it was pretty damn close from that given speed, but if ya got enough road ya you can leave em in the dust or if you were smart you would start in 1st and let him try to pull you back but then you would be shifting while hes pulling.
all & all i think it really has to do with that given speed - too high for 1st, too low for 2nd, where as for the stang , its perfect thats why they give you a good run.

bottom line - sticky to sticky from a dead stop, see what happens

p.s where the hell can i get a new slave cylinder?? thats the stuck to floor clutch problem right?

kennyxg

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Zman 420 was the one I was racing and i'm the one who originally posted this story in another forum. I guess myself and zman 420 need to post the video and let it speak for its self. I was supprised that I hung with him like that but it was a good run rather you choose to believe it or not. Zman is a good driver and this was a friendly run. And like I said my car needs more power. Up top he definatley pulls hard on me but i'm not finished with my mod yet. Good run John!

kennyxg

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Let me clarify I was in fourth gear not the ls1.