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Old 10-02-2005, 02:52 PM
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springs and adjustable shocks all the way around helps alot.
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well with my relo brackets on the lowest setting and running 17" BFG's I am spinning.

What would be better V6 springs or a torque arm? I have decent power and my stall is a 3800 with a 2.7 str. Think I should go with a different verter with a lighter str so it doesn't whack the tires so hard?
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Originally Posted by GueSS Who
In Elite hot rods car I cut a 1.27 60ft with all of his metioned suspension parts.
So Elite HotRod = Oldman = Chain Blue Lightling I wish people would use the same name everywhere.
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Originally Posted by UMI Performance
A torque arm plays a very important part also in traction and the way you launch.

Hope that helps!
Ryan
A stock torque is fine for his car...Ive been running a stock one for years now and have been many 1.3 60's on it. Relocation brackets are the key.

When you want a good set on the car Eric hit me up...The ones you have on there now are junk but better then none at all.

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Originally Posted by eric01ss
well which spring elite hot rod
Stock springs are fine for you now eric...When the car really starts to make some power id install some Wolfe Spring perches and use a smaller diamter spring on the rear...Thats way out of your time frame right now.

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Originally Posted by WOT
Could you please be a little more specific. I have always wondered the same thing. especially the panhard. The torque arm has been debated many times before and has its pros and cons of each side, but the panhard has never been explained.

TIA WOT
Changing instant center on a stock torque arm is the cheapest way to hook a car up...Relocation brackets will do it but theres only one set on the market that do it best...Mine.
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
for the life of me i cannot get the holes to line up in my adjustable relo brackets when i try to put it on the lowest setting, anyone have any tips?
Installed incorrectly and you need a big pry bar to move the rear forward to line them up.

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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
well with my relo brackets on the lowest setting and running 17" BFG's I am spinning.

What would be better V6 springs or a torque arm? I have decent power and my stall is a 3800 with a 2.7 str. Think I should go with a different verter with a lighter str so it doesn't whack the tires so hard?
A better set of brackets...Most dont give you enough instant center change to make a big difference.

Theres only one set of 3-hole brackets on the market....Mine. Everyone else is 2 hole.

I dont sell mine with out installation because too many people make the easiest mistakes on installing them and welding them in place incorrectly.

Mike
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guys dont forget tire pressure. my friends 98 t/a auto 3.42 with lid/exhaust/sfc's at 18psi tires pulled 1.8s stock converter and everything else
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Originally Posted by 98SuperSport
guys dont forget tire pressure. my friends 98 t/a auto 3.42 with lid/exhaust/sfc's at 18psi tires pulled 1.8s stock converter and everything else
I did that on stock manifolds, with free mods, lid and cutout...Yes its very possible. 1.80 was the best 60 out of my stock converter.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
A stock torque is fine for his car...Ive been running a stock one for years now and have been many 1.3 60's on it. Relocation brackets are the key.

When you want a good set on the car Eric hit me up...The ones you have on there now are junk but better then none at all.

Mike

i have seen stock tq arms bent with 1.5 60' times
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So is there any relocation brackets that have three control arm settings?
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
A better set of brackets...Most dont give you enough instant center change to make a big difference.

Theres only one set of 3-hole brackets on the market....Mine. Everyone else is 2 hole.

I dont sell mine with out installation because too many people make the easiest mistakes on installing them and welding them in place incorrectly.

Mike
I've been told by one of the most respected suspension shops on here that relocation brackets make no difference...
maybe yours are different.

I personally don't have any and with NON adjustable LCA's have cut low 1.4X 60's on motor and consistantly cut mid 1.4X's.
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what is the rest of your suspension setup? I could use some help. Might car is spinning BFG's.

My BMR relo brackets only have 2 settings so I put them on the bottom.
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here's my view on this... the guy has a basically stock car looking to cut better 60' times. so for him, he doesn't need to go adjustable shocks/springs all the way around, or big rear sway bar, or anything like that. for his car, i'd say the first things to do would be to put some drag radials on it, and get a torque converter........... if he wants to take weight out of the car then he can, if he wants to remove the front sway bar to get it to hook up better he can. those are both free mods to get 60' down, however they do hurt daily driving somewhat.

my vote goes to good tires and a torque converter.
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Originally Posted by 383ss
I've been told by one of the most respected suspension shops on here that relocation brackets make no difference...
maybe yours are different.

I personally don't have any and with NON adjustable LCA's have cut low 1.4X 60's on motor and consistantly cut mid 1.4X's.
Is your car lowered???
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I have good tires and good converter and relo brackets and lca's and having trouble hooking. Maybe cause I'm making more power now..

Again I'll ask, should I do v6 springs or hal's or torque arm next?
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BFG's aren't "Good" tires... If you want drag radials go with MT Et Street Radials or go with a set of Hoosier QTP's and see what you car can really 60'...
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et streets suck.

my drag radials have afforded me a 1.60 and they're a hell of a lot better than nittos.

but you are right they aren't a mickey thompson drag radial. when i use these up i'll go with those.

these tires are sticky and there's no reason I shouldn't be able to at least decently hook on them .
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Originally Posted by 383ss
I've been told by one of the most respected suspension shops on here that relocation brackets make no difference...
maybe yours are different.

I personally don't have any and with NON adjustable LCA's have cut low 1.4X 60's on motor and consistantly cut mid 1.4X's.

Im sure your chassis guy that you respect knows that instant center is also important in getting a car to bite. Thats all relocation brackets do. They dont change pinion angle at all.

Ladder bar cars are similar to torque arm cars.

my car consists of a stock unmodified torque arm, my relocation brackets, Wolfe double adjustable chromoly LCA's and a Wolfe Drag bar. I have a yank T400 X-member for the trans. I have a stock panhard rod, with eibach lowering kit all around and the original hal shocks and springs. Front springs are also pro kit.


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