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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Weighed both of them on the same scale today, both with no interior trim plastic. T/A hatch/wing = 88lbs, regular Firebird hatch = 74lbs.

I never cared for the look of the T/A wing and swapped to a formula hatch - loosing 14lbs isnt hard to take either
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Great info! I've guessed for years that the hatch was part of the Formula's great weight numbers.

Now loose those heavy ground effects, and nose
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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I would take off the ground effects but there is holes drilled all across the rocker panels where you can see them and the bottom of the front fenders also has holes. I wanted to make the whole thing into a formula, dont care much for the rear bumper either, until I realized there was al those holes
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Couple people PM'd me for pics of what the regular firebird hatch looks like on a T/A. so i figured I'd just post a few. I honestly think it looks better then the T/A spoiler but thats just my opinion - either way it doesnt look horrible and 15lbs is 15lbs
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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kp, do you have to take the entire hatch off to switch the rear spoiler? Can't unbolt the spoiler from the hatch/glass?

Looks good btw.
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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The T/A hatch bolts to the spoiler but the formula/regular firebird hatch is all one piece so you have to swap the whole thing. Some firehawks (I think you have one) have a rear spolier that bolted on that was different then the T/A spoiler. Thats why the formula one is lighter, it is the same double layer as the t/a hatch but instead of bolting on a 20lb spoiler to the top, the top part is molded into a spoiler.
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Hmm.. I bet a TA hatch w/o the wing is even lighter than the forumula hatch.
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Originally Posted by kp
Couple people PM'd me for pics of what the regular firebird hatch looks like on a T/A. so i figured I'd just post a few. I honestly think it looks better then the T/A spoiler but thats just my opinion - either way it doesnt look horrible and 15lbs is 15lbs
That is one AWESOME looking car!!!!!!!!!!!! And FAST to boot!!
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Originally Posted by Magnus
Hmm.. I bet a TA hatch w/o the wing is even lighter than the forumula hatch.
Wing weighs 18lbs so the T/A hatch minus the wing will be a couple pounds lighter, if you like the taurus look it would be OK

The T/A hatch is double layer just like the formula/firebird hatch so most of the weight difference is just the wing itself. I didnt do it for the weight, mostly because I didnt like the T/A wing but I'll take the weight too
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I have tons of formula hatchs if you all need any. I personally like the trans am wing better than the formula style
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People will think you have a fake WS6, but that's ok because they will try to race you and you will win I don't mind the Firebird wing. I have a 1997 Formula, and I don't mind it at all.
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Originally Posted by blind527
People will think you have a fake WS6, but that's ok because they will try to race you and you will win I don't mind the Firebird wing. I have a 1997 Formula, and I don't mind it at all.

Just the other day I had someone pull up next to me asking what happend to my "wing" LOL
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Originally Posted by blind527
People will think you have a fake WS6, but that's ok because they will try to race you and you will win I don't mind the Firebird wing. I have a 1997 Formula, and I don't mind it at all.
Its not a real ws6 anyhow, I tried to pull that badge off when I got the car but its on there for good. Its a little past the point of being original anyhow, I just never liked the t/a wing. Most people tend to stay far away from me at a stoplight, dont think the rear spoiler has much to do with it though
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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I think it looks great.
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kp
Weighed both of them on the same scale today, both with no interior trim plastic. T/A hatch/wing = 88lbs, regular Firebird hatch = 74lbs.

I never cared for the look of the T/A wing and swapped to a formula hatch - loosing 14lbs isnt hard to take either
I have always wondered what the weight diff would be.
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Man that wing looks familer for some reason. Looks good I just like the trans hatch better. My daughter said "that new thingy on the car makes it look awsome" Hey she's only 7. My wife didn't even notice I had it on.
For those of you wondering I switched hatches with him. I'm glad you like it.
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It doesnt look that much different but I just like it better - guess I'm just getting bored and needed to change something My wife liked the old wing better, cant make everyone happy
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I have tons of formula hatchs if you all need any. I personally like the trans am wing better than the formula style
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