Which Line Lock, any difference ??
We have occasional questions between the B-001TM and the B-001FM. Differences lie in where the solenoid is mounted. Our original design is front mounted as SLP seemed to mimic. Some folks stated mounting the solenoid was a bit difficult to mount due to the location of the LS1 power block...and other components in the way...(it is a bit difficult to drill the required holes to mount the solenoid). An angle drill makes it much easier but most don't have one. We since then offer an alternative solution which has the solenoid mounted up near the grounding screw located right above where the front solenoid is mounted. This location is MUCH easier to mount. The choice is still yours which kit to consider. The B-001 kits are the best bang for the buck.
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I used a Biondo. After bending my own lines and wiring everything up, I've got maybe $60 in the whole thing.
http://www.biondoracing.com/RacerEssentials.shtml#LL
You'd be surprised how many of these $120 kits are using this $40 solenoid setup.
http://www.biondoracing.com/RacerEssentials.shtml#LL
You'd be surprised how many of these $120 kits are using this $40 solenoid setup.
Anytime a person wishes to create a component it can be self-gratifying. Sometimes money can be saved; other times not…Costs do add up many times adding quite a bit more then what one initially thinks.
…our kits contain many components that if you added it up, I don’t believe it would save a consumer much at all…the person needs a double and bubble flare tool, tube bender as well as many fittings. A few specialized switches, the proper wire fuse, fuse holder grommet and assembly time. They would also need the knowledge and practice bending lines. A consumer would also have to invest in the time calculating what is necessary…pay for shipping and or gas to go to a shop to purchase these components. Having lines bent correctly the first time and looking professional takes practice and the proper tools. I can assure your our components are not bent on a standard hand bender you purchase for 15.00-20.00. A hand bender cannot perform some of the bends due to the tight radii. A few tries messing up a few lines can and I’m sure does occur. A set of lines would cost a consumer ~15.00 alone. If the person has to purchase all of the parts listed above, they are more then likely going to spend over 100.00 for everything then still have to do all the work themselves.
Since the kit in question is not breaking most banks…I would suggest that if you wanted to save quite a bit of money, making your own torque arm or other high dollar component would be much more beneficial in savings. I would bet manufactures creating these components certainly feel that the price is warranted. We do not just pick a price-point out of the top of our head and say “that is a good spot”.
Self gratification can be welcomed and nice to boast about…this isn’t always feasible or practical. Take a suspension part…steel is ~2-5.00 per foot for most of the parts you see. You could make many of them easily if you had the tools and the time. Cost savings, you could save quite a bit of money. Is it feasible? …For some yes, for the majority no. How much cost is involved in a simple subframe connector? @ 2-5.00 per foot and a four brackets 20.00 maybe…is 150.00 worth it? Most certainly.
How much does thread or yarn cost? You could purchase yarn and knit a bedspread for 20.00 instead of purchasing a handmade spread for 500.00.
Manufactures, vendors, retailers all have to eat and make a profit. We have to pay employees, insurance workman’s comp etc. We certainly wouldn’t benefit nor would any other manufacture like BMR, UMI etc from giving parts away. We are not the blue cross providing services for free. We do feel that our parts are valued at outstanding prices just as other vendors do. I will go as far to state many are selling some of the parts at such a low profit margin…it is lower then one would think.
It is nice to be able to purchase parts and slap them on and be done.
…our kits contain many components that if you added it up, I don’t believe it would save a consumer much at all…the person needs a double and bubble flare tool, tube bender as well as many fittings. A few specialized switches, the proper wire fuse, fuse holder grommet and assembly time. They would also need the knowledge and practice bending lines. A consumer would also have to invest in the time calculating what is necessary…pay for shipping and or gas to go to a shop to purchase these components. Having lines bent correctly the first time and looking professional takes practice and the proper tools. I can assure your our components are not bent on a standard hand bender you purchase for 15.00-20.00. A hand bender cannot perform some of the bends due to the tight radii. A few tries messing up a few lines can and I’m sure does occur. A set of lines would cost a consumer ~15.00 alone. If the person has to purchase all of the parts listed above, they are more then likely going to spend over 100.00 for everything then still have to do all the work themselves.
Since the kit in question is not breaking most banks…I would suggest that if you wanted to save quite a bit of money, making your own torque arm or other high dollar component would be much more beneficial in savings. I would bet manufactures creating these components certainly feel that the price is warranted. We do not just pick a price-point out of the top of our head and say “that is a good spot”.
Self gratification can be welcomed and nice to boast about…this isn’t always feasible or practical. Take a suspension part…steel is ~2-5.00 per foot for most of the parts you see. You could make many of them easily if you had the tools and the time. Cost savings, you could save quite a bit of money. Is it feasible? …For some yes, for the majority no. How much cost is involved in a simple subframe connector? @ 2-5.00 per foot and a four brackets 20.00 maybe…is 150.00 worth it? Most certainly.
How much does thread or yarn cost? You could purchase yarn and knit a bedspread for 20.00 instead of purchasing a handmade spread for 500.00.
Manufactures, vendors, retailers all have to eat and make a profit. We have to pay employees, insurance workman’s comp etc. We certainly wouldn’t benefit nor would any other manufacture like BMR, UMI etc from giving parts away. We are not the blue cross providing services for free. We do feel that our parts are valued at outstanding prices just as other vendors do. I will go as far to state many are selling some of the parts at such a low profit margin…it is lower then one would think.
It is nice to be able to purchase parts and slap them on and be done.
Originally Posted by mongse
I used a Biondo. After bending my own lines and wiring everything up, I've got maybe $60 in the whole thing.
http://www.biondoracing.com/RacerEssentials.shtml#LL
You'd be surprised how many of these $120 kits are using this $40 solenoid setup.
http://www.biondoracing.com/RacerEssentials.shtml#LL
You'd be surprised how many of these $120 kits are using this $40 solenoid setup.
I got the same one, for the money you cant beat it.
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Originally Posted by stevemilz
I got the same one, for the money you cant beat it.
Most people will like the premade kits because bending brake lines can be an evil ***** of a job. I made everything for mine b/c I changed all the brake setup from the firewall forward.
check my sig for some more line lock info.
sorry if some of the prices and links are outdated my computer broke and I just now got a new one and will update soon. but you may find some useful info if you are in the market for one.
sorry if some of the prices and links are outdated my computer broke and I just now got a new one and will update soon. but you may find some useful info if you are in the market for one.
