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Old 12-13-2005, 05:34 AM
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Here is the beggining of mine.They should be updating the pictures soon

http://www.dmcracing.com/id59.html
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Originally Posted by SUX2BU
i like this from the Wolfe 25.5 cage instructions.
Installation: Requires removal of seats, interior plastic and carpet, & the Dash will need to be removed for installation. Welds to Subrame connectors along with plates (depends on location) (per NHRA requirements). Welding is required as well as some cutting of floor and behind the dash.
Yeah. Stange we actually have to mention that. But we had someone try and do a Credit Card charge back once. They said they didn't know that there was welding involved and that they would have to remove the dash. Even though it was called a weld-in roll cage and all the photo's had the dash removed.

So we mention it now.

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Originally Posted by Outlaw
mine is 25.2



Outlaw, why did you leave the stock floor-pan in on a 25.2 car?
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Originally Posted by Ben R
Outlaw, why did you leave the stock floor-pan in on a 25.2 car?
Many reasons, First off the car is made for stock floor plan classes (drag radial, True Street, ETC). Second is I wanted the car safe and going 25.2 is the "safest" of all the certs. Third I don’t want to be limited on how fast the car CAN go. 25.4 and 25.5 specs are limited to 7.50 and at the rate stock suspension cars are going, it wont be long before that 7.50 mark is broken (not that I will ever hit that mark). Last at the weights most of these cars are having to weight or already weight, 3200+ and with the power levels (1800HP) the more solid you make the car the more consistent it will be on getting down the track. A few more but I wont bore yea all
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Many reasons, First off the car is made for stock floor plan classes (drag radial, True Street, ETC). Second is I wanted the car safe and going 25.2 is the "safest" of all the certs. Third I don’t want to be limited on how fast the car CAN go. 25.4 and 25.5 specs are limited to 7.50 and at the rate stock suspension cars are going, it wont be long before that 7.50 mark is broken (not that I will ever hit that mark). Last at the weights most of these cars are having to weight or already weight, 3200+ and with the power levels (1800HP) the more solid you make the car the more consistent it will be on getting down the track. A few more but I wont bore yea all
That's good thinking. I think yours is the first 25.2 car I've seen with the stock floor. Are you using stock style suspension?
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Originally Posted by Ben R
That's good thinking. I think yours is the first 25.2 car I've seen with the stock floor. Are you using stock style suspension?

Yea I think its one of the first cars done like that if not the first, but im sure it will become more common as time goes on. Yea the car has all Wolfe parts for suspension (Double sway bar, TQ arm, controll arms, pan hard bar, spring perches).

Does anyone know if the 25.4 and 25.5 cert have a MPH cap? I recall something about some cert being capped not only on ET but at 180 MPH also.
I personally think that MPH is JUST as deadly, if not more, then ET and this would make sense if its true.
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YOu can exceed 180 and 190 with a 25.5 cert.

180 is one of the cut offs for when a 25.5 cage is required 8.49 or 180mph. That is how i have understood it.

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Old 12-13-2005, 08:56 PM
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The 25.5 cert is 7.50 to 8.49 up to 3600 lbs. The 25.2 is faster than 7.50(aka Pro Mod) and up to 3200 lbs..The weight is my delima ..Some places rules are 3150 and others are 3250 for my combo..So I guess the 25.5 is the way I am leaning to for now, since 7.50 is way outta my reach for quite a few years..
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The cage and chassis work on Tom's camaro was
by KTS Race Cars. The comment by Tom that the
Shop that built the car is out of business is false.
All of our chassis have certified to date.
I hope that Tom finishes his project soon.
With Stenoid helping him finish up, I'm sure
it will run the way he wishes.

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Old 12-15-2005, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave@KTS
The cage and chassis work on Tom's camaro was
by KTS Race Cars. The comment by Tom that the
Shop that built the car is out of business is false.
All of our chassis have certified to date.
I hope that Tom finishes his project soon.
With Stenoid helping him finish up, I'm sure
it will run the way he wishes.

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Dave is correct, he did a fantastic job on the cage! I'm glad to hear your back in business. Where is the new location. Your title still say's sponsor so you should be able to post up the new information with some pics of current projects for everyone to admire your work.

Good Luck!

Tom
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Nice stuff guys!
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Originally Posted by FSTR-THANU
Dave is correct, he did a fantastic job on the cage! I'm glad to hear your back in business. Where is the new location. Your title still say's sponsor so you should be able to post up the new information with some pics of current projects for everyone to admire your work.

Good Luck!

Tom

Thanks for the cage comment Tom. We never did close, just relocated.
Bad Landlord problems. I'm still in north Romeo in a temporary shop.
Looking to buy my own building again! Not yet a sponsor again.
Hoping to Sponsor in spring.

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whats are the requirements of 1/8th mile certs? How fast can I go without the jungle gym around my head, as 1/8th mile racea are about all we have...
Old 06-26-2006, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BLWN1
whats are the requirements of 1/8th mile certs? How fast can I go without the jungle gym around my head, as 1/8th mile racea are about all we have...
5.35 in the 1/8th with a 12 point cage is the cut-off before you go to 25.5 cert. from a sportsman cert.
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Is it me, or does it look like there's a lot more bars Tom's 25.5 setup than Outlaw's 25.2? I know that there's a ton more under the car with the 25.2, but I'm surprised there isn't more in the hatch area.

Regardless, magnificent work on both setups.
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The spec only covers the safety portion of the cage, which is essentially from your back forward. It doesn't specify any extra bars added to support suspension, body panels, hatch, etc. In general the 25.5 is beefier looking, the 25.2 has a few more bars in it on the safety side and the 25.1 is the lightest spec for full tube cars.
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It just surprised me that Tom's car that is good to 8.50 (25.5) looks beefier than Outlaw's 7.50 & faster (25.2, 25.1E) setup.

Been so long since I was around a good 25.x setup, that I forgot where all the jungle gym bars went.
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Originally Posted by mongse
It just surprised me that Tom's car that is good to 8.50 (25.5) looks beefier than Outlaw's 7.50 & faster (25.2, 25.1E) setup.

Been so long since I was around a good 25.x setup, that I forgot where all the jungle gym bars went.
25.5 is good to 7.50 bob
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Originally Posted by NRC-Motorsports
25.5 is good to 7.50 bob
Yeah, I just noticed that.

These are the spec listing I have for those interested:
25.1E Full Bodied Car Tube Chassis Roll Cage - 7.49 Seconds and Quicker; 2,800 Lbs. Maximum N/A
25.2 Full Bodied Car Tube Chassis Roll Cage - 7.49 Seconds and Quicker; 3,200 Lbs. Maximum N/A
25.4 Full Bodied Car Tube Chassis Roll Cage - 7.50 to 8.49 Seconds; 3,600 Lbs. Maximum N/A
25.5 Full Bodied Car Stock or Modified/OEM Floorpan and Firewall with OEM Frame or Uni-Body Construction - 7.50 to 8.49 Seconds; 3,600 Lbs. Maximum N/A
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25.5 is 5,500.00 minimum.


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