Just ordered a new 4L60 transmission with a TRANS BRAKE. Made by ROSSLER & available through THUNDER RACING. They are a site sponsor. He has applied for a patent & is known for HARDCORE parts. His own '55 Chev. runs mid 6's at way over 200 with one of his own transmissions.(not a 4L60).

 

what kind of power is your car making? what does it weigh?

 

The new motor is going in next week if Riechard (ECS 10 RIB Drive) gets pullys to me. It's a C-5R , 427 with 17 to 19 lbs (hope) & a 100 shot. ET 265/41 heads,238/248 cam at 115+1 LSA,jesel 1.75 ratio,.648/.632 lift. I will post #'s soon (again,I hope). Seems like it always takes me longer to get something together than it should.Car is a 2002 C-5 .

 

that trans wont last if you really have that setup, the power that kind of setup would make will bake a 4L60.

 

UUUUUUMMMMmmmm. That's a ton of power you are talking about. I wouldn't be a fraid to slap a 150 shot on our turd, but you are pushing the envelope IMO. I'd love to run the T-brake myself, but I'm just able to hold the power I have consistently and still be competitive enough to win.

Rossler Rocks no doubt. My 4L60E hasn't flinch after a ton of low 1.4s and high 1.3 60fts pushing a pig of a car to the mid-low 10s on motor, but I'd really discuss this with Carl personally before dumping the cash.

Good luck and please keep us posted!!

 

TXCAMSS, your running a brake on your 4l60E?

 

Confused... If I "really have that setup". What's that supposed to mean? As far as strength ,ROSSLER has a big following in IHRA TOP SPORTSMAN & other high hp classes. His own '55 goes mid 6's at way over 200. I don't think he would sell junk. This is kind of a high $$ trans/converter.

 

THE "100" shot is one of those "If you can use it deals". I am sure I won't use NOS to launch. Kind of like the T. brake. Optional. I will try to post a clip when it's done. My licence lapsed so got to get that done 1st. Those 1.3 60 ft. & low 10's are strong for anybody.(especially on motor).

 

it doesn't matter that Rossler has a huge following, i'm going to be running one of his glides myself, BUT you can't make a mansion with chewing gum. the 4L60E is just not as strong as what you will need, no matter who builds it. there have been guys building them for years saying they are "bulletproof" and EVERYTIME they get blown up at about 550rwhp or anything more. his '55 goes mid 6s with a custom, one off, full race, nothing like a 4l60e transmission called the th210. what his racecar, ihra cars or anything else does doesn't have anything to do with what your 4l60e will do. two totally different types of cars, and two infinately different types of transmissions.

 

what liscense are you talking about? you don't need a liscense to run 10s bro.

 

If the 4L60 isn't strong enough I guess it will break. My IHRA licence(s) were TOP Sportsman & TOP Dragster the last time. Before that NHRA PRO STOCK. If breaking parts is a really big issue,a car probably should be left stock, bro.

 

well, breaking parts for no reason is the issue here. breaking parts is going to happen, anyone that has been part of a pro stock car knows that. but, breaking them because you are to ignorant or careless to do it right the first time, now that is stupid and anyone that does that's car should remain stock. but hey, i'm talking to a pro stock driver, you should already know all that right WJ?

 

Go with nothing less than a beefed TH400 w/brake...like someone else said, if that's really your motor setup, you won't find a 4L60E that will handle it. It doesn't matter who builds it, by design it can't handle it.

 

I didn't start this thread to brag about my engine,licence or anything else . I am 57,not a high school kid. I thought some people might like to know about this new trans.brake. I did not come on here to defend what I have as an engine,the strength of the trans or my past as a racer. That bro,WJ or If I really have this or that is kid **** so you work it out.

 

i think what they are trying to say is up untill now that trans is just not going to live.maybe he made some new parts that will make it last,who knows?but if it does,you will be the first to have done it.keep us posted.i would love to have a overdrive in my car. the 400 does turn up a bit for the street.

 

No I don't have a T-brake in my 4L60E. I wish I did. I do hope the 4L60E T-brake set ups out start to prove themselves. It would be awesome.

A few years ago strokers were very uncommon and considered unreliable, but that's not the case today. Who would have thought a stock internal LS1 could run as quick as they are today?


Anything is possible with todays technology and knowledge.

 

This deal is kind of an experiment. I don't really like a real loose converter on a car I drive on the st. Most other st. cars I own or owned were 4,5 or 6 speeds. Fun to drive but it can get old in traffic. Since nearly all have had an alum flywheel(so you don't hit the tires so hard) that just makes a nasty cammed up motor harder to live with. I was looking for a way to launch like a manual (with slicks) but have auto shifting the rest of the time. ROSSLER applied for a patent on this deal. He says it can be put in 3rd. with full trans. brake capability & still have automatic computer shifting. In the past a brake meant full manual shifting . So now I am told it will launch like a standard trans. if you choose or left in drive & have automatic shifting. Comment on the strength issue. It concerned me also. I intended to buy a turbo 400 but was advised that putting one in a C-5 involved major modifications to the floor & other stuff that would make an eventual return to stock difficult. Since it has less than 10k miles on the clock I am not going to cut it up. If this were an f-body I would have probably have used a th400. He offers 4L60 's in several levels of HP handling capability. I opted for the MAX. deal. The case would appear to be the weakest part to me. He said He has about 50 sold with no comebacks so far. I believe He said 2 of them were in the 8's. For those concerned about $$ this is not the way to go. NINE BALL told me to not quote prices.THUNDER RACING is a dealer & a site sponsor. Some parts are handmade by them & thats costly. Example ,the shafts are Billett 300m steel made in house. ALL in all it's still dirt cheap compared to hardcore racing on a regular basis.

 

you are saying that there have been cars go 8s with a 4L60E transmission?

 

I did not see it. That is what I understood Carl to say. BTW- I really don't appreciate some of your comments about my past racing exp.,engine choice(or if I have one) . I started this thread because I thought some people might like to know about the trans. brake, nothing more.Next thing I know this smartass bullshit starts. I see from your profile you were born in 1983. I am 57 so that means I was driving a AA/FA 10 years before you were born. I will let you figure out what AA/FA means,in the mean time why not put me on your ignore list because you are going on mine.

 

I'm very interested in hearing from the others with the 4l60 transbreak. I have only read about one other with one and he has only been to the track 1 time since it was installed. Even then I think he went on street tires??? I want to know how this thing is goint to hold up before I fork over the cash for one instead of a TH350 or 400.