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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:11 AM
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I know this a wide open question but here's where I'm going with this. My car currently cuts mid 1.5-low 1.6 60' times on basicly the stock suspension. I do have lca's and relocation brackets. I see quite a few guys upgrading their torque arms even though their 60' times aren't quite as good as mine. I've ridden in cars with the upgraded units and would hate to have to deal with all that banging around under the car on a daily driver.

My plans for the winter are to upgrade the motor in hopes of being a bit quicker next season. How much power will the stock T/A take?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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I'll replace it when it bends. I'm from the school of, "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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I'll replace it when it bends. I'm from the school of, "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
agreed. too many people concentrate on the wrong things to get the car to launch. keep it till it is bent. even when bent its not that huge of a deal (depending on the severity). we have a couple locals that have gone 1.49 and lower on stockers in full weight cars. i went literally 100 1.5 60' times on the stocker and got rid of it b/c it was bent.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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agreed also, unless you're just wanting to spend the cash, keep the stocker until it breaks. only reason i'm not going to use the stocker on my new setup is i'm going glide and 9" so its not really gonna work out.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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I bought mine because im doing all my suspension at once to get it out of the way. But i plan on doing a motor later. Plus all UMI ones are on sale. You can get um for $380 shipped for a adj. relocated one.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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I had my car on the dyno and the stress from the stock arm & bushing cracked my tailshaft housing. I replaced it with an aftermarket one with a poly bushing. Never has a problem after that. It did help with traction on the MT Drag Radials too. Pinion angle was set at -3.5.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt D
I had my car on the dyno and the stress from the stock arm & bushing cracked my tailshaft housing.
I did install the BMR crossmember that relocates the arm to the crossmember.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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I just did all the susp. before my bigger performance mods just so the car would be ready for lots of power!! On the street with full susp and on the bottle very little spin in first otherwise all traction, Race track all traction!!

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Stock arms are also known to crack the tail housing. When i was getting my trans built, they had a handfull of cracked tail housings. Another main reason.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Wow, i'm shocked at some of these responses.

I wouldn't wait until it snaps, thats just stupid.

FWIW i'm cutting 1.5X-1.60 60's and when I talked to MADMAN he recommended getting an aftermarket unit and changing the mounting. It was one of the first things he recommended I change because of the risk.
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Originally Posted by SScam68
Wow, i'm shocked at some of these responses.

I wouldn't wait until it snaps, thats just stupid.

FWIW i'm cutting 1.5X-1.60 60's and when I talked to MADMAN he recommended getting an aftermarket unit and changing the mounting. It was one of the first things he recommended I change because of the risk.

Im with ya. That snaps and no telling what else it could fu*k up.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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...Matt saw your car at SLP yesterday when I was there.

BTW my buddies old TA (which Mike from SLP bought) ran like 1.4 on stock suspension as well...
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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how often do you hear of guys saying "my tq arm snapped in half!"

lol. come on fellas. 1.5 to 1.6 60' is a joke for the stock tq arm. especially with an auto.

you will just get tired of busting tranny and tq arm bushings first.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by big dave
I know this a wide open question but here's where I'm going with this. My car currently cuts mid 1.5-low 1.6 60' times on basicly the stock suspension. I do have lca's and relocation brackets. I see quite a few guys upgrading their torque arms even though their 60' times aren't quite as good as mine. I've ridden in cars with the upgraded units and would hate to have to deal with all that banging around under the car on a daily driver.

My plans for the winter are to upgrade the motor in hopes of being a bit quicker next season. How much power will the stock T/A take?
Your times are pointing toward a driveline loop??
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mvonada
Your times are pointing toward a driveline loop??
I don't understand. Are you talking about a driveshaft loop? If so, I already have one.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
you will just get tired of busting tranny and tq arm bushings first.
What does it take to limit the travel of the front of the torque arm to avoid broken parts? pictures? I do not want a shorter arm (loses traction past the 1000ft lights)
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Originally Posted by patriotformula
...Matt saw your car at SLP yesterday when I was there.

BTW my buddies old TA (which Mike from SLP bought) ran like 1.4 on stock suspension as well...
Yeah it was getting a new converter & a new torque arm. The Fuddle 3600 wasn't big enough and I am not chancing the tailshaft housing on this car with the stock torque arm again
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So MAtt, are you keepin your camaro now? Good to see your back in the game. I still got thoes nittos you ran on that night. Still in usage, lol.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Yeah I am keeping it. It feels good to be back as well. Those Nitto DRs helped me beat that dual adder, LS1 powered Malibu quite well
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Tru to the game Matt. Hopefully this summer goes a lot better for ya!
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