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Old 03-02-2007 | 01:19 PM
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Sell your car and get a honda.
Old 03-02-2007 | 01:33 PM
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when your car launches, the wieght transfers to the rear anyway. so if you have a fwd with all the weight on the front when you launch the still wants to transfer to the rear. thats why fwd drag cars have those look-alike wheelie bars to keep the weight on the front. it works but still not as well as a rwd. example: watch import drags. they have both fwd and rwd classes. they also have unlimited budgets and extensive r&d. the rwd cars will always be faster.
Old 03-02-2007 | 01:35 PM
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But I do have to ask...what was your reasoning for ditching the sway bars? Apparently you weren't concerned with weight loss since you already said that the care weighed 3300 with you in it.
I wasn't planning on carving any corners with the car. When I swapped in a different rear end, I broke the endlinks on the rear sway bar. Instead of just buying new ones, I decided to leave it off. It had no ill effects on the launch. As far as the front, my car launched better without a front sway bar, so I left it off.
Old 03-02-2007 | 01:36 PM
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I do not bash anyone on this forum, but you have got to be either joking, or a retard.

"Bricks in the back"???? the weight moves to the back as the car launches. That’s why when you have power and hook it the front end comes up. Its called a wheelie. so let me ask you what happened to all the weight on the front tires has to go some where. But this thread is funny. And I will keep reading. Please post something stupid about me now. haha
Old 03-02-2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pontiac
I do not bash anyone on this forum, but you have got to be either joking, or a retard.

"Bricks in the back"???? the weight moves to the back as the car launches. That’s why when you have power and hook it the front end comes up. Its called a wheelie. so let me ask you what happened to all the weight on the front tires has to go some where. But this thread is funny. And I will keep reading. Please post something stupid about me now. haha
no no...nothing stupid to say. I know I'm the one who sounds retarded lol.

"bricks in the back" was just a little example...not really truthful. I wouldn't put bricks in the back of your car...but some weight can be useful at times depending on how hard your car launches.

Matt D...makes plenty of sense as to why you got rid of them. If I were in your position I would have done the same. But to me...I would really like to test the benefits of leaving the swaybars ON. I feel that they have more worth than just "carving corners". I mean I know a drag car will never make turns and steering is minimal but still...I feel that some swaybars have a meaning to the structural integrity of the chassis of the car. I think that it plays a big difference in weight transfer and movement of kinetic energy.
Old 03-02-2007 | 01:53 PM
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A RWD CAN hook without bricks in the back.
As far as going fast the RWD can hook more than it needs to depending on how its set up. So the weight on the front would not matter. The entire car is on the rear wheels when it launches with RWD.
A far less amont of the weight is on the drive tires of a front wheel drive. How could you get the entire wieght of the car on the front tires on a launch?
If you want a lighter car there are far better choices than a Fbody that are already FWD.

What are you going to race it in?

If you really want to do it go ahead and build it and let us know what happens. but IMO you would be better off just building up a RWD but if you just want to be different go ahead. I have seen an amphibious Camaro and it drives across the water better than mine j/k

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Originally Posted by White_Liberty
no no...nothing stupid to say. I know I'm the one who sounds retarded lol.

"bricks in the back" was just a little example...not really truthful. I wouldn't put bricks in the back of your car...but some weight can be useful at times depending on how hard your car launches.

Matt D...makes plenty of sense as to why you got rid of them. If I were in your position I would have done the same. But to me...I would really like to test the benefits of leaving the swaybars ON. I feel that they have more worth than just "carving corners". I mean I know a drag car will never make turns and steering is minimal but still...I feel that some swaybars have a meaning to the structural integrity of the chassis of the car. I think that it plays a big difference in weight transfer and movement of kinetic energy.
A bigger, beefier sway bar in the back will help drag cars making a good amount of horsepower. My car did not make a lot and did not have the need for it; that is another reason why I left it off. If I were to spray the car or put more power down, I would have went to one of the weld-in style drag bars like the Wolfe or Spohn style.
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:00 PM
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You have admitted you know nothing about drag racing and dont have much experience... and by looking at your wagon with "stuff" (is that referring to the dirt and grime on the engine?) You dont have any experiece driving a high powered rwd platform. But yet you constantly tell people on here who do have experience that they are stupid...

Are you just angry at rwd because your pimpin wagon doesn't get the chicks?

Drag racing has going on since the automobile was invented. Don't you think somewhere along that period if what you are saying was true they would have switched to fwd?
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:01 PM
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Let's try to keep it civil guys. Let's keep the attacks and name calling down to a minimum.
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you would be faster in reverse, my car wheel hops and spins like crazy in reverse. hahahaha
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue86
You have admitted you know nothing about drag racing and dont have much experience... and by looking at your wagon with "stuff" (is that referring to the dirt and grime on the engine?) You dont have any experiece driving a high powered rwd platform. But yet you constantly tell people on here who do have experience that they are stupid...

Are you just angry at rwd because your pimpin wagon doesn't get the chicks?

Drag racing has going on since the automobile was invented. Don't you think somewhere along that period if what you are saying was true they would have switched to fwd?
Why is that everyone UNDER 50 posts feels like they have to say something ignorant? Is this because they have nothing better to contribute? A few guys have really helped this thread out and actually posted something worthwhile and then guys like YOU come along and F*ck it up. If you have nothing worth saying than DONT post.

BTW...who are you to criticize WHAT I KNOW about drag racing/cars/engines/chassis ETC....? Do you know me? Nope you don't. What do you have to share other than a shitty post? Do you think your cool because you can criticize others who are less fortunate as you? Did your daddy pay for your brand new car? probably...let me tell you something...MINE DIDN'T. I paid every last cent on mine including the dirty grimy engine with modifications (yea I said it, I modded a WAGON) There's more to a car than just chrome and mine has more GO than SHOW...of course because it's a F*CKING WAGON!!! Do you think that WAGONS are great looking cars? NOT REALLY! Of course I like the look of it...but thats me.

Am I angry? No not at all. My wagon is RWD...and powerful enough for myself. Do I get women because of it? Hell ya...the girls love it. And these aren't trailerpark trash like you're picking up...no bimbos ride in my "wagon".

Did I ever insult ANYONE with ANY PRIOR knowledge and call them stupid? Nope...those that I DID insult deserved it and they hadnt contributed anything in the first place. people like Matt D who actually KNOW something have said stuff thats worthwhile reading...those idiots that posted to flame me are the ones I called stupid. No go ahead...bring what you know to the table. I'm dying to hear what you have to say....
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Liberty
Listen here post *****...go get off to your # of posts since thats all you seem to do...post worthless info about other people. You sound like your 9.

Stay the hell out of my thread...
A post count of 60 after a year and a half is a "post *****?" Yet another thing that you said, that makes no sense. If you had half a brain like you say you do, you would never have even thought the stuff you posted about RWD vs. FWD, which leads me to believe you are doing it for attention. And I am FAR from alone in this opinion.
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Liberty
Not alot of thought put into it but has anyone ever thought of this? I mean FWD cars track straighter and could launch a hell of alot faster with the use of a beefier sway bar and traction bar. Plus you could get rid of alot of things in the car that weigh it down more. I would only think about this for serious people in drag racing. Just food for thought. What do you all think?
Those two statements right there either prove you have no knowledge of the basic principles of drag racing or laws of physics, or that it is YOU that is the attention *****.
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
A post count of 60 after a year and a half is a "post *****?" Yet another thing that you said, that makes no sense. If you had half a brain like you say you do, you would never have even thought the stuff you posted about RWD vs. FWD, which leads me to believe you are doing it for attention. And I am FAR from alone in this opinion.
Well you have your opinions and I have mine. You do seem like a post ***** despite you # of posts because the content of your posts either seem to be BS or something not even relating to cars or the thread. So it seems we're on the same page.

I'm sure people think I'm crazy...it's all good. Go back and read it.
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Those two statements right there either prove you have no knowledge of the basic principles of drag racing or laws of physics, or that it is YOU that is the attention *****.
don't cry...I'm getting all the attention!!!

BTW...Question for you...why are some cars produced (including a few fast ones or ones that can be made faster) FWD? Oh wait...those manufacturers and engineers are dumba$$es right? Why would they ever do that? I'm not saying they will run a friggin 9 but c'mon...you can make a FAST FWD car believe it or not.

Oh and BTW again...I've been reading here for awhile too and it seems that many members don't always believe you either. You get picked on alot in other threads and most call what you say BS. Just stating the facts. I think you're picking on me to feel better about yourself.

And I know ALOT about drag racing and the laws of physics....
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:37 PM
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What do you plan to race this FWD Fbody in?
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:45 PM
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+1 for beating imports at the track....run it in a FWD class....handicap the LS1 and stil beat them at their own game
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by toprintonbothsides
+1 for beating imports at the track....run it in a FWD class....handicap the LS1 and stil beat them at their own game
Great Idea!!! Whoever said to sell my car and buy a honda...HAH! I hate those loud coffee can ricers on our roadways. What not a better way to show them some American muscle power....in their very own FWD platform!
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:47 PM
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The people that call "BS" are the ones that don't know what they are talking about... the ones that do come in and back me up. And FWD is used because it is cheaper, more compact, and allows for more passenger-compartment space. There are some performance-oriented cars that just happen to be FWD, but that is in-spite-of being FWD... not because of it. And I repeat... if you knew anything about dragracing or physics (ie; weight transfer), you never would have even brought it up.
Old 03-02-2007 | 02:52 PM
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Wow, this quite possibly has to be one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen. This could quite possibly hit the SSU hall of fame. Let's keep this retarted **** going, it's amazingly humorous how clueless wagon boy is. TTT!


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