TuffSS

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I have a friend with an 02 V6 Camaro that is getting new shocks and springs. He'll give me his stock ones.

I'm on a really tight budget for a few with my SS do to another project and other priorities.

So, I'm wondering if the stock 6 banger springs being softer would help at all with weight transfer on my M6 SS????

I searched and seemed to see that the rear springs are apparently the same, but his fronts have to be softer (looser). Not sure if his front struts would be looser to as compared to my stock SS ones.

Again, tight tight budget. Don't mind a little work to swap some parts if it will net a little gain, realizing you get what you pay for.

Thanks for any input / help...........



I did just do the heater hose mod on the rear this past weekend, and its starting to hook up a little better in second gear lol. Any kind of actual launching with any traction is a long ways off do to current tires and the budget there again.

gator's 99TA

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dont waste your time and money.

TuffSS

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No money, they'd be free.

Softer front springs of no benefit? This is a surprise. With the oldschool muscle I'm used to playing with 6 cylinder springs up front are generally a cheap alternative to drag springs in helping get the front to stand up quicker and more. Guess I was hopeing that for a mostly street car they might still benefit me some. Nothing like free, but hey........I won't waste my time if theres nothing to be had there.

Whats the next cheapest (up from free lol) part I should be looking at to help the front end come up/weight transfer?

Navy David SS

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Agree don't waste your time. Think about it - the V6 front springs/shocks are meant for a much smaller engine (V6) and your SS. Do you think they would hold up? I really don't know the spring rate of the V6, but it doesn't make sense.

For the rear, I have tried the V6 spring in the rear. Switched back to the stock SS springs. They just didn't work for ME.

David

TuffSS

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Really appreciate the help guys. Just surprissed by the apparent fact/answer.

I was honestly expecting to hear something to the effect of like the front 6 banger springs will lower the front by 3/4 to 1" over stock at rest height and will be much softer thus giving better front to rear weight transfer, but likewise killing corner handling do to the increased roll side to side up front. Or something like that....... Then I was also kinda expecting to potentially be told I would need better struts to cope with the or offset the soft spring on the compression side.

Guess, I was dreamin........ (the free part sounded good anyways lol damnit )

Thanks guys.............

GIZMO

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Take out the sway bar (but take it easy in the curves!).

+1 against V-6 springs.

Daren

TuffSS

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Would that help from mostly the weight being gone up front, or also not being hooked up and adding resistence to movement even if up and down? I've done this on many old musclecars so I kinda figured that'd be a basic here too. Any liteweight bars for these? Or still to much of a limitation for launching?



LOL, darnit..........OK thats Against the Sixer springs score 3, For Sixer springs score 0.


What front springs do I need to be searching for? A name or brand for these? Options as far as strip only or street use livable?

minytrker

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I have drove and raced camaro's with v6 springs. They all seem to work well for what they were. I have them in my camaro on the rear and they work really well but I also have other things done.

TuffSS

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Thanks for sounding in. Have you by chance run the V6 springs on the front of a Camaro/F-body with an LS1? Curious of the ride height drop and ride. If they'd offer more weight transfer, but still be streetable with the right shock/struts (whatever those might be/stiff compression).

TuffSS

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Stumbled upon this. Don't know of its accuracy, and obviously its of more use to the non drag oriented crowd. Somewhat interesting.

Fbody Spring Rate Database
(Progressive springs are listed with initial and final spring rate)

Manufacturer Model Front (lbs/in) Rear (lbs/in) Ride Height Drop (in.)
OEM GM V6 93-97 223 95.4 0.00"
OEM GM V8 93-97 310 110 0.00"
OEM GM V6 98-02 257 114 0.00"
OEM GM V8 98-02 292 114 0.00"
1LE GM 1LE 360 130-180 0.00"
Eibach V6 Prokit 93-97 337 75-135 1.00"
Eibach V8 Prokit 93-97 377-600 94-160 1.30"
Eibach V6 Prokit 98-02 351 80-137 1.40"
Eibach V8 Prokit 98-02 400 80-137 1.25"
Eibach Sportline 360 80-137 1.6" / 1.4"
Hotchkis Fbody Springs 285-525 100-140 1.00"
G2 Super Springs 548 180-230 1.50"
Hyperco Hypercoils Fbody Springs 360-580 168-216 1.25"
MAC Fbody Springs 450-515 215-245 1.50"
SLP Level 1 Progressive 223-448 97-136 0.75"
SLP Level 2 Progressive 300-450 115-185 0.50"
BMR Fbody Springs 310-550 145-170 1.00"
Suspension Techniques Fbody Springs 428 161 1.30" / 1.70"
Edelbrock Fbody Springs 585 120-150 1.25"
DMS Springs LS1 98-02 325-630 95-160 1.30"




Ahh, its a chart. Didn't copy/paste for sheit. Heres the link if curious.
http://www.angelfire.com/my/fastcar/suspension.html

minytrker

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Yes have run them all the way around on several of them. Some of these are daily drivers. The springs do lower the cars a good bit. As far at the track, some of these cars go into the 6's in the 1/8th.

TuffSS

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How much would you tend to say they lower the front???? And were these the 93-97 V6 springs or the slightly stiffer 98+? Again, I will be having access to the 98+ V6 springs if I want them.

Thanks

minytrker

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With skinnies on the front you can fit about 3 fingers between tire and fender, sorry didnt have a tape handy. Im pretty sure the springs come from 98+ that we have been getting but not 100% sure. We normally just call the junk yards and they have them waiting by the time we get there. MOst of the deal only in newer cars so it a good chance they are all 98+ that we got.

TuffSS

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What diameter are the skinnies????

What shocks/struts with the light springs? Still the QA1's everybody refers to? I haven't searched for info on them yet so I'm not familiar with their tune/adjustment features yet.



Stumbled on some V6 Camaro site right before I turned in last night and those guys being more familiar with swaps to the LS1 from sixers claimed the LS1 was only approx. 50lbs heavier. Surprized the heck outta me. The V6 still iron maybe?