QA1's; but no weight transfer!
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QA1's; but no weight transfer!
I've been trying to get my suspension to click while the weather allows but seem to be having no luck. Car has a stall, cam, gears, full bolt-ons, and suspension. I got M/T 255/50/16 radials at first because I've read only good things about them, they are killer tires, I know because my buddy had them on his Formula and now his WS6 and they work great for him; but he has'nt done as much to his car yet. I bought Prostars and ET drags with ET fronts but I see alot of people hooking really well with the radials so I would like to get them to work good for the street. I have QA1's in the front with 275 lb. springs, CE 3 ways in the back set at 50/50, adj. TA, lca, adj. PB, and airbags in a set of 93-97 V6 of rear springs. I take out from a SMALL stall and end up spinning until it changes to 2. Then it spins a little in second and it's off. It seems like I have almost zero weight transfer. The only thing I've not done is remove the front swaybar, and I will do that, but is that actually needed for weight transfer with the QA1's? I have a nitrous plate on it but don't spray it because of this and I have a nice set of heads sitting here looking good but if I cant' get this fixed then I guess there's no use in those. Sorry for the long post, any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Thanks for the input! I know that the swaybar removal has been discussed numerous times on here, I was just wondering if that is where most of my problems stem. Thanks again and I would appreciate all other input also!
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Sorry for the bad grammar in the first post
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Sorry for the bad grammar in the first post
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Removing the front sway bar will help out a lot. Also what do you have your QA1s set at? I know they are adjustable, but i am not sure how many different settings they have. Also what about your pinion angle, has that been set?
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Pinion angle is set at -3, and they are the 12 way adjustable QA1's, they're currently set at zero to try and get some transfer. After the swaybar comes off I think maybe three if it starts to shift weight. Thanks!
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You are making progress. You have learned that getting you car to launch well is not simply a matter of copying what seems to work for everyone else. Small differences can have large effects. I think you need to abandon your shotgun approach and start experimenting – preferably at a dragstrip where you can see your sixty foot times. The length of your rubber stripes on the street is a poor measurement. Change one thing at a time and make a few runs so you learn whether the change helped or hurt. Start with tire pressure.
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Thanks for all the suggestions! No sooner did I start this thread, the weather went south. I've not had a chance this weekend to experiment. Maybe this week if weather permits. Thanks again!
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Yea, I'm here with ya. Can't get my car to hook for crap w/o perfect track prep. It makes you mad because of alot of faster, smaller tired cars running better. I've noticed my car likes the front Qa1's at 3, 4-5 on the rears. But again, still not hooking well. Just going to take alot of track time and adjusting. Good luck.
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Great! I'm really thankful for all the feedback. I'll check the pinion angle and try to find a sweet spot. Just yanked off the swaybar and was VERY impressed with the results! I have a spot measured @ 285' (bridge), crude but the track is a long way away and I work alot of weekends, with no change except for the swaybar I went from 58mph to a solid 68mph on the street! Still spinning through the first 60'; but the mph is encouraging. It should do alright when I get it all fine tuned. Thanks again for all the help!
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Hey, may have found something else. What's your ride height on the front? Mine seemed to set pretty low in the front compared to stock after the QA1 install. I really liked the look, but it may have been my problem. I raised the front 1" yesterday, and it seemed to help alittle (the street is a poor way to test, but...). Before adjustment, front was 27 3/8" high, and I took it to around 28 3/8". Rear was/is 29" high. This give me roughly a 1* rake measured off of subframe connectors with tire pressure as it is at the race track. I measured from ground to bottom of wheel well inline with center of wheel fro ride height measurements. It's kinda crude I know. Never know, might help.
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Great! Thanks, I'll measure this weekend sometime and see where I stand right now. I'm not for sure of the height now, what size skinnies you running? I've got 26" ET Fronts just wondering for height comparison. Thanks again!
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I'm running 26-4.50-15 ET Fronts w/ 40 psi. and 28-11.50-15 ET Drags w/ 10 psi. My car's weight is 3060 lbs. and have an iron block. So, if your car is heavier, you'll probably be lower, but I think the main idea is to get rid of/lessen the harshness of the rake...I guess...lol. I haven't been able to see if this has helped any, and it looks like it's going to rain this weekend. But you never know.
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What you guys have discovered is "center point" or four corner weight. If you have a shop with four corner scale, you may discover that your front is carrying too much of the weight. I'm set up with about 53-54% in front and 46-47% in back - I also have an iron block. Like said, pinion angle should be set at about -2. Any more may be unloading your tires.
Good luck
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Good luck
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