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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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I am trying to decide which trans to buy.
I will be index/bracket racing on a tbrake.
running 1/4 mile and 1/8 mile.
mid 10's.
3000-3150lb raceweight
450ish rwhp NA

which one will be most consistant?
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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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I'd rec. the glide or the TH400. Most common for a transbrake, but the 'glide takes as much pounding as the TH400 without the initial "shock" from the higher numerical gearset. Will hook consistently from track to track and/or hot to cold seasons.

Just my $.02, I'm running a TH400 now and love it, but mid 10s and quicker I'll likely same the $$$ for a 'glide.

Derek
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Old May 28, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Villain281H
I'd rec. the glide or the TH400. Most common for a transbrake, but the 'glide takes as much pounding as the TH400 without the initial "shock" from the higher numerical gearset. Will hook consistently from track to track and/or hot to cold seasons.

Just my $.02, I'm running a TH400 now and love it, but mid 10s and quicker I'll likely same the $$$ for a 'glide.

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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
I am trying to decide which trans to buy.
I will be index/bracket racing on a tbrake.
running 1/4 mile and 1/8 mile.
mid 10's.
3000-3150lb raceweight
450ish rwhp NA

which one will be most consistant?
Check the rules for the class you'll be racing in.... Out In Cali PSCA doens't allow for PG's or TB's in the slower classes.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex @ CMS
Check the rules for the class you'll be racing in.... Out In Cali PSCA doens't allow for PG's or TB's in the slower classes.
I will be running Super Pro for the next couple years and I know a PG is allowed.

I plan to run Super Street in the future. I figured PGs were allowed but I don't know for sure in Super Street.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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I think a foot brake class is the most fun to run, but I know nothing.

I think the best way to answer your question is to provide the following. In bracket racing why do 99% of the people run this tranny? Auto / Manual
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Old May 29, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
I think a foot brake class is the most fun to run, but I know nothing.

I think the best way to answer your question is to provide the following. In bracket racing why do 99% of the people run this tranny? Auto / Manual
Well I don't want to get into a footbrake/box debate. I enjoy both.

I don't understand what you are saying on the second part of the post???
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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I bracket race with a glide and trans brake and I love it. It's consistant with only 1 shift to make. I have a 1.96 1st gear in the glide and a 4.56 gear out back. My raceweight is 3150 with about 575 / 585 RWHP or so. Never had this new motor on a dyno.
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As usual I read about 49% of the guys question then had an answer. I see now his question was what automatic tranny to use. Had nothing to do with auto or manual tranny for bracket racing. I picked the three speed. I guess if you have enough power the two speed works well.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom the roofer
I bracket race with a glide and trans brake and I love it. It's consistant with only 1 shift to make. I have a 1.96 1st gear in the glide and a 4.56 gear out back. My raceweight is 3150 with about 575 / 585 RWHP or so. Never had this new motor on a dyno.
what size tire with the 4.56?
do you think the PG will be OK with only 450HP?
I am going with a 28" tire.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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You're good to run super street with a PG, that's what 99% of people run because with a 3 speed you have to shift it while the car is on the stop which gets tricky. For HR/SST I'd run a PG for sure. Get a 1.96 first if you want some hang time. Mine has a 1.76 and picks them up good enough to stay consistant.
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Originally Posted by Hrod382
You're good to run super street with a PG, that's what 99% of people run because with a 3 speed you have to shift it while the car is on the stop which gets tricky. For HR/SST I'd run a PG for sure. Get a 1.96 first if you want some hang time. Mine has a 1.76 and picks them up good enough to stay consistant.
Thanks that was what I needed to know!



I have another question that is a little off topic.

I am NA now and will be aroud 450rwhp, Would a supercharger hurt consistincy? Would staying NA be best? I would love to have a little more power but I am pretty close to the most I can probley get out of this 347ci. maybe more compression but thats probley not going to give me enough. I would rather it be a closer to 10.00's so I can be on the Tstop a little longer. Will a Tstop even work with a supercharger?
I am not familiar with Tstops. Do they have to have to be on a carb? will they work on the stock fuel injection?

Thanks for the help!
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
Thanks that was what I needed to know!



I have another question that is a little off topic.

I am NA now and will be aroud 450rwhp, Would a supercharger hurt consistincy? Would staying NA be best? I would love to have a little more power but I am pretty close to the most I can probley get out of this 347ci. maybe more compression but thats probley not going to give me enough. I would rather it be a closer to 10.00's so I can be on the Tstop a little longer. Will a Tstop even work with a supercharger?
I am not familiar with Tstops. Do they have to have to be on a carb? will they work on the stock fuel injection?

Thanks for the help!
IMO, A supercharger will not be consistant enough to run Super Pro,HR/SST .

If I was going to go Super Pro,HR/SST I'd run a PG for sure.

I would run the PG if I had to do it all over again. With that being said, I run a turbo 350(no t-brake) with a 5000 stall convert behind a 347. We do ok, braket racin and run between 10.20 to 10.35 depending on the time of day/year & weather.

I was always told that if I put a PG in my car it would slow her down, but she would be more consistant.

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PS. If your going to run Super Pro,HR/SST You have to CUT A LIGHT & DIAL HER TIGHT!
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
what size tire with the 4.56?
do you think the PG will be OK with only 450HP?
I am going with a 28" tire.
30" tire and I shift up to 7800. If your concern is consistancy then yes.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Thanks for the help. I figured a supercharger was not the way to go. You guys have been a lot of help. I appreciate it.
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I would think the stop should work on the fuel injection if you get a CO2 stop. It would be more tricky than those of us that run carbs but I'm sure it could be managed.

I wouldn't be too concerned with what it runs, honestly they're a little easier to set up when they're closer to the 10.90. When we were running high 9's-low 10's it was easy to go anywhere and get it close, once it was mid 9's there's so much of a variation in how long it has to stay on the stop we would struggle when we unloaded at a new track.
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I like my TH400. Cheap and very durable. It is a monster off the line. I LOVE the way it launches off the tbrake. And very consistent. Last time I had it out I ran within .02 seconds on three runs.

I kinda miss having overdrive but oh well..
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Just wanted to project my 2 cents. With 500 HP and 3000+ lbs, a 350 with brake, will be plenty strong. Gives you a better launch, than glide, and less loss than 400. If you are going to step up, than glide all the way. As some have said. My opinion, low power cars like the 3rd gear. I didn't switch to glide until ~9.50 N/A and 8.80 spraying. Good luck.

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I'm running a PG with 28" with 4.10's.
The 60's are not as good with the 4L60E that I had but the 60's are more consistent. When you run a marginal prep track the PG is a way better choice then the 3 and 4 speed autos.
On the dyno my car had 378 RWHP to the wheels, a loose converter 4500. Look at time in my signature that was a decent cool day, typically during this time of the year it's in the 11.20's to low 11.30's in the 120 to 121 mph range.
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Originally Posted by Ken95Z28
I'm running a PG with 28" with 4.10's.
The 60's are not as good with the 4L60E that I had but the 60's are more consistent. When you run a marginal prep track the PG is a way better choice then the 3 and 4 speed autos.
On the dyno my car had 378 RWHP to the wheels, a loose converter 4500. Look at time in my signature that was a decent cool day, typically during this time of the year it's in the 11.20's to low 11.30's in the 120 to 121 mph range.
Was the 4500stall in the pg and what size converter in the pg, I mean inches and stall.
what first gear in the pg?
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