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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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i am looking into getting a cage made.. and i was just wondering if the main hoop (that goes from the floor pan up around your head) can be leaned back or if it has to stay straight vertical... someone told me that the main hoop has to be straight up and down and it cant lean back at the top if i want to pass NHRA sanctions.. any help?
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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it can be leaned back some
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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it can lean. I know 25.5 says it can be as much as 20*
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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is there any rule book online that will tell me... its not that i dont trust you guys.. its just that i want to make 100% sure about this before i go and start spending money on this cage...
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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how fast are you wanting to go? your best bet would be an nhra rule book, they put the new ones out in the middle of january or so, or if you plan to 8.49 or quicker go to the sfi website and purchase the spec book for what you need., they dont really post rules on the internet like scca and nasa do, i wish they did too.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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It can lean back!
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan / Wolfe Race Craft
It can lean back!
I never new you guys went 4.79 with that car , holy **** that is fast.

Well so is the 7.40 1/4.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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is there any rule book online that will tell me... its not that i dont trust you guys.. its just that i want to make 100% sure about this before i go and start spending money on this cage...
I just looked at my rule book, it didn't specify, but I know my SFI 25.5 book said 20* layback permitted, I wouldn't go any further than that
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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20* is a lot I wouldn't see any reason to even go 20*.

BTW what's the difference from 25.5 and 25.2 is it just the weight limit? Or are there other additional bars?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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I would never lean it back, if you were to put in on the roof that bar being straight would allow the roof to colapse a little less and would be stronger. Might just be a little but a little is a little.

I am about your height and my last car and a 10 point in it with the main hoop being straight up and my head was never close to it, it was only an issue with the overhead bars. If you are going for looks then safter is more important.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chrismorales75
BTW what's the difference from 25.5 and 25.2 is it just the weight limit? Or are there other additional bars?
Alot more bars. roof is "X"ed (instead of a diagonal in 25.5), 3 x's under the car, some bars are larger diameter and alot of joint gussets
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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I would put it straight as possible. Maybe a little angle to it. who is going to do the work for you?
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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not sure who im going to have do it. or if im going to buy a kit to do it myself. im wanting to do a 10 point or so...

this is going to go in my datsun.. so the car is really small.. there isnt a lot of room in there. so i am not sure whats going to go on with it.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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what kind of datsun, most dont have a drag kit available, if you use crome-moly tubing it can be smaller diameter so it will save a little room, no matter how you slice it its going to be tight, use lots of padding, cuse by the time you get in you wont want to drive from the headache lol
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by car_fixer
if you use crome-moly tubing it can be smaller diameter so it will save a little room,
WRONG!!!

chromemoly allows you to use thinner tubing, but the same outer diameter rules apply between mild steel and chromemoly
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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LOL car_fixer at it again huh. Just yesterday that guy told me to go FWD and mini tub my front end
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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car is backhalved... so i dont think any kit would fit in it..
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
car is backhalved... so i dont think any kit would fit in it..
Not sure on the Dautson but on the F-bodies you would just have to move the to back bars in.

Custom cages fit and look a lot better.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JUICED96Z
Not sure on the Dautson but on the F-bodies you would just have to move the to back bars in.

Custom cages fit and look a lot better.
I agree, that's why I'm having Norman do mine. I could'nt buy it from wolf and pay someone to tig it in there any cheaper. And he is doing through the floor SFC's.

I did a wolf in my camaro last year and it turned out great. But in the end, I could of paid someone what I had in doing it.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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I agree, that's why I'm having Norman do mine. I could'nt buy it from wolf and pay someone to tig it in there any cheaper. And he is doing through the floor SFC's.

I did a wolf in my camaro last year and it turned out great. But in the end, I could of paid someone what I had in doing it.
Same here on my WOLFE, would have cost just as much to have someone do one from scratch.
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