Need some suspension help to hook big power
Need some suspension help to hook big power The car is not a dedicated drag car, but I do only race in straight lines, 1/4 mile up to 1 mile 
The car is a handful under power (1XXX RW), does not like to go straight, plus my tire is rubbing the **** out of rear pass side qtr panel because suspension squats too much. My suspension is set for "road racing" car is lowered some 2", raising car not an option, need it to handle for 1 mile pulls
Here is what I have on the car:
BMR LCA's Non adjustible, poly ends.
BMR APHB -poly ends
SFC's
Koni SA's
Strano Springs
Stock rear sway bar - poly ends.
BMR adj TQ arm.
I have a feeling some of the problems I am hving is the poly mounts move around too much under big TQ, spherical rod ends maybe a better fit for this application. Having adjustible LCA's may also bring help to center the rear. Any input here?
To the "Squatting" of the rear end, I am running 325/50/15s and pass side rear is rubbing very bad, see here:
View Video on FQuick
but this does not happen on the driver's side, this makes me believe the rear/suspension is not equally distributing load, which adds to teh tendency to not go straight. Sway bar may help alot here ?? what about airbag to hold the pass side steady and limit travel????? any thoughts here?
The car is a handful under power (1XXX RW), does not like to go straight, plus my tire is rubbing the **** out of rear pass side qtr panel because suspension squats too much. My suspension is set for "road racing" car is lowered some 2", raising car not an option, need it to handle for 1 mile pulls
Here is what I have on the car:
BMR LCA's Non adjustible, poly ends.
BMR APHB -poly ends
SFC's
Koni SA's
Strano Springs
Stock rear sway bar - poly ends.
BMR adj TQ arm.
I have a feeling some of the problems I am hving is the poly mounts move around too much under big TQ, spherical rod ends maybe a better fit for this application. Having adjustible LCA's may also bring help to center the rear. Any input here?
To the "Squatting" of the rear end, I am running 325/50/15s and pass side rear is rubbing very bad, see here:
View Video on FQuickbut this does not happen on the driver's side, this makes me believe the rear/suspension is not equally distributing load, which adds to teh tendency to not go straight. Sway bar may help alot here ?? what about airbag to hold the pass side steady and limit travel????? any thoughts here?
What were you trying to accomplish with that pass? Getting the tires wet and then driving on down the track isnt going to help. You never let the car plant and transfer.
dammit guys, stop worrying about the pass... it was just to demonstrate that the tire rubs pretty bad and the suspension squats too easily. The car hardly ever sees teh 1/4.
You made the comment the car doesnt like to go straight. What you did in the video isnt helping at all. Get a real anitroll bar for the rear like a BMR or a Wolfe and crank some power into it.
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the not going straight part happens on the dry street. But for arguement sake, it dead hooked on that 3rd and 4th gear pull.
I guess what I am trying to describe is "torque steer".
The BMR extreme drag race sway bar looks nice and no welding required but hte Wolfe unit looks better with spherical rod ends...
Any thoughts on my theory that poly bushings are flexing and allowing rear to move under the car?
I guess what I am trying to describe is "torque steer".
The BMR extreme drag race sway bar looks nice and no welding required but hte Wolfe unit looks better with spherical rod ends...
Any thoughts on my theory that poly bushings are flexing and allowing rear to move under the car?
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Verdad Gallardo It could be the poly bushings or it could be the suspension isnt square or it could be you need relocation brackets, or shocks arent set correctly etc. If it dead hooked in 3rd or higher then you need more power up there.
The video shows you have clearance issues with the tires.
You could throw some airbags back there to keep it from squatting and that should help the rubbing.
Road racing and drag racing don't mix.
You could throw some airbags back there to keep it from squatting and that should help the rubbing.
Road racing and drag racing don't mix.
LOL Madman, Im not looking to break any records, just go down the track or street "safely".
I won't turn up the power until I feel comfortable with the car's handling.
I don't road race with this car, but I intend to do standing mile runs with it, therefore why I need the suspension to be setup that way. 1/4 mile is secondary for now. I just don't want the tire to rub and the only way to control that is to stop the squat. I raised the rear of the car another 1/2", it has about 1.5" to the tire from the fender now, but still squats and rubs hard.
I'll be deffinately starting with a serious rear sway bar. Also looking at airbags.
thanks,
I won't turn up the power until I feel comfortable with the car's handling.
I don't road race with this car, but I intend to do standing mile runs with it, therefore why I need the suspension to be setup that way. 1/4 mile is secondary for now. I just don't want the tire to rub and the only way to control that is to stop the squat. I raised the rear of the car another 1/2", it has about 1.5" to the tire from the fender now, but still squats and rubs hard.
I'll be deffinately starting with a serious rear sway bar. Also looking at airbags.
thanks,
coilover kit?
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog...oducts_id=1558
give them a call and explain what you want to do.
also, just widen your fenders with one of those roller things
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog...oducts_id=1558
give them a call and explain what you want to do.
also, just widen your fenders with one of those roller things
there's also poly bushing with steel lining: http://www.jegs.com/p/Energy+Suspens...10002/-1/10059
and all metal bushings:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Competition+En...10002/-1/10059
and all metal bushings:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Competition+En...10002/-1/10059
LOL Madman, Im not looking to break any records, just go down the track or street "safely".
I won't turn up the power until I feel comfortable with the car's handling.
I don't road race with this car, but I intend to do standing mile runs with it, therefore why I need the suspension to be setup that way. 1/4 mile is secondary for now. I just don't want the tire to rub and the only way to control that is to stop the squat. I raised the rear of the car another 1/2", it has about 1.5" to the tire from the fender now, but still squats and rubs hard.
I'll be deffinately starting with a serious rear sway bar. Also looking at airbags.
thanks,
I won't turn up the power until I feel comfortable with the car's handling.
I don't road race with this car, but I intend to do standing mile runs with it, therefore why I need the suspension to be setup that way. 1/4 mile is secondary for now. I just don't want the tire to rub and the only way to control that is to stop the squat. I raised the rear of the car another 1/2", it has about 1.5" to the tire from the fender now, but still squats and rubs hard.
I'll be deffinately starting with a serious rear sway bar. Also looking at airbags.
thanks,
If my tires were rubing I would NOT be driving hard on them, having a tire blow in a standing mile would suck because it got cut or rubed a few to many times.
If you have adjustable rear shocks I would put them on full stiff and if that helps then I would say there is your issue, if not like others have said maybe a busing or something........
HOWEVER, you do realize that when you launch pretty much a foot out of the water box the tires are wet so they will not hook at all and I am sure that will kick the rear end out since pretty much all RWD cars will d that with wet tires if you ask me.........
You also said it set-up for road racing, but in a later post said you don't road race it......
But like I said, if its rubing, you don't need to be driving it hard untill you fix the issue.
he means "road" racing not track events, the things they do with their car group are 60-130mph events because none of the guys are set up to run quarter mile,