Drag Racing Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Suspension unloading ... need advice.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 4, 2008 | 05:32 AM
  #1  
JEB99TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default Suspension unloading ... need advice.

Reposted with vid and pics.

My setup:

Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73 gears, Adj BMR T/A, Bilstein HD shocks, SFC's, Panhard rod, LCA's, !Front Sway bar, stock height, full weight car (w/ seats, spare, front bar, etc removed), MT DR's 275/40R17 @ 21psi cold.

LCA's were in the bottom hole. but have been moved up. I measured the pinion angle at all points per the BMR write-up and the T/A is at -2.5. I'll be racing tomorrow morning. The track should be warm enough and the air cool enough to get some good testing done, so, i'll post back up when I get back.

Here are the vid and pics to critique. The tires plant hard ... the suspension unloads a few feet out ... then the suspension reloads again and sticks good. This was with the LCA's in the bottom hole. Adjustable QA's are in the works ... for now, I'll have to settle for the HD Bilsteins. What do you think? Is this LCA angle about right?

VIDEO link to yesterday's 11.665 run ... 1.582x 60'




VIDEO of my old 11.733 run ... 1.64x 60'





Pinion angle/LCA angle pics.




Last edited by JEB99TA; May 5, 2008 at 01:11 PM.
Reply
Old May 4, 2008 | 05:57 AM
  #2  
FASTFATBOY's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,861
Likes: 2
From: Mobile Ala
Default

I saw the "bunnyhop" You need some shocks. Put the front swaybar back on for now and see if it helps. AND OR an airbag in the RR spring will also band aid it

The front is coming up so hard it is unloading the rear.


You make close to the same RWHP as me and I am running 11.00 at 3700 lbs, you need some shocks


David

Last edited by FASTFATBOY; May 4, 2008 at 06:04 AM.
Reply
Old May 4, 2008 | 11:41 AM
  #3  
JEB99TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Yeah David, I hear ya' and you're right. I just got back from the track and picked up over a full 1/10 (.108)faster ET and nearly 4/10 better 60' time (new times in sig) ... still didn't floor it ... just mashed it real hard.

All from moving the lower control arms up one hole. With shocks and a little more air pressure adjustment, the car's got lot more. DA must have been high as hell. It was about 80+ degrees and pretty humid @ 65 ft sea level. Time for some drag wheels and shocks now.

Watching the video, the weight transfer was steady and looks real good now. I'll post the vid up later tonight is anyone is interested. Thanks for evrybody here who have stuck with me and given good advice.

Last edited by JEB99TA; May 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM.
Reply
Old May 4, 2008 | 06:41 PM
  #4  
ls2 bait's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4,507
Likes: 5
From: in your closet
Default

i would do the shocks before the wheels. u might be suprised just how fast u can go with those wheels/ tires.
Reply
Old May 4, 2008 | 07:11 PM
  #5  
JEB99TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Yeah, that's what I'm looking at now. It's looking like that will be my next change ... probably will do skinnies at the same time to get the weight transfer to really work and to lighten up the car a little.
Reply
Old May 4, 2008 | 11:40 PM
  #6  
RAGENZ28's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,467
Likes: 1
From: Port Hueneme, CA
Default

You can see the car squat right when the tires hit, so stiffer shocks for sure.
Reply
Old May 5, 2008 | 05:31 AM
  #7  
JEB99TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

I did one thing yesterday which I think helped. The tires were at 21 psi on the first two runs. On the last run. I dropped the left rear down to 20 psi and left the right at 21 psi.

Since rear shocks are so easy to replace, I'll do them right away. I will say that the car has always left perfectly straight and appears to be squatting a little, but, evenl on both sides ... at least that's what I think I'm feeling inside the car.

Here's the vid from yesterday ... weight transfer looks a lot better than the original vid I posted last week:

VIDEO link to yesterday's 11.665 run ... 1.582x 60'


Last edited by JEB99TA; May 5, 2008 at 01:10 PM.
Reply
Old May 5, 2008 | 12:04 PM
  #8  
RAGENZ28's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,467
Likes: 1
From: Port Hueneme, CA
Default

Links don't work bro. I have some used C/E 3 way adjustables you can set to 50/50, have to be better than stock shocks, you pay for shipping I'll give them to you free.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 5, 2008 | 01:13 PM
  #9  
JEB99TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Try this ... should work. As for shocks, I don't have stock shocks ... running the HD Bilsteins. I'm buying new QA's ... thanks for the offer, though. Let me know if this vid doesn't work. It should be OK ... if not, I can email it to you. It's only 7.8 mb.

Reply
Old May 5, 2008 | 01:16 PM
  #10  
RAGENZ28's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,467
Likes: 1
From: Port Hueneme, CA
Default

I can't see too much, but either way you'll have new shocks and I am sure it will help either way.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE