2002 camaro build up
05-28-2008, 12:16 PM
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Took one month to do and its an absolute work if art having someone else do it that had all the tools and plenty of experience, sure it costs but in the long run it was worth it to me to have someone else do it. I'm all for doing things myself, but there is a lot of bending, notching and fitting doing a 25.2/25.2 and you need some room to do it. It all boils down to what a several hundred hours of your time is worth I guess..
05-28-2008, 12:19 PM
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Yea, I wouldnt worry about that at all around here, plenty of 4 second cars running around here with snot mig welded 8.50 cages running around here. I did the 25.5 just to get it over with so if I do decide to step it up its already done. Its not getting cheaper every year to do thats for sure..
05-28-2008, 12:20 PM
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By the time I bought a bender, something decent to notch with, bought the tubing, went through a ton of argon, filler rod, grinding disks, and having to listen to my wife for a couple months bitching that I kicked her out (and made a huge mess) of the garage I'm as happy as a pig in **** that I paid to get mine done.
Took one month to do and its an absolute work if art having someone else do it that had all the tools and plenty of experience, sure it costs but in the long run it was worth it to me to have someone else do it. I'm all for doing things myself, but there is a lot of bending, notching and fitting doing a 25.2/25.2 and you need some room to do it. It all boils down to what a several hundred hours of your time is worth I guess..
Took one month to do and its an absolute work if art having someone else do it that had all the tools and plenty of experience, sure it costs but in the long run it was worth it to me to have someone else do it. I'm all for doing things myself, but there is a lot of bending, notching and fitting doing a 25.2/25.2 and you need some room to do it. It all boils down to what a several hundred hours of your time is worth I guess..
05-28-2008, 12:23 PM
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my buddy already had a NICE notcher (saves alot of time) and a nice pneumatic bender... dont get me wrong i like doing it i just should of started last november... i was on the fence about it the whole time... just decided the 6pnt wasnt enought..lol...
but we stripped everything out of the car and im turning it into a "race car" .... 3 gallon fuel cell up front, bbc, chute, new brake lines, strange front brakes...
i'll be very proud of it once its done but its just a long trip there...
but we stripped everything out of the car and im turning it into a "race car" .... 3 gallon fuel cell up front, bbc, chute, new brake lines, strange front brakes...
i'll be very proud of it once its done but its just a long trip there...
05-28-2008, 12:24 PM
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i've got some more pictures on my face book page... anyone who wants to see the rest just pm me and ill give you my email then just add me as a friend..
05-28-2008, 12:44 PM
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I just bought a air over hydrualic bender, Tube notcher, Bending software and already have all the welding equipment and skill. You guys make me want to buy a plasma cutter and go to town on my car. I am really trying to keep this one streetable. You guys are not making that easy.
05-28-2008, 12:47 PM
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its much easier to race and work on a "race car".... trying to have something to drive on the street and race is just a hassle and takes lots of money and time and in the end it wont be good for either.....
05-28-2008, 12:56 PM
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my buddy already had a NICE notcher (saves alot of time) and a nice pneumatic bender... dont get me wrong i like doing it i just should of started last november... i was on the fence about it the whole time... just decided the 6pnt wasnt enought..lol...
but we stripped everything out of the car and im turning it into a "race car" .... 3 gallon fuel cell up front, bbc, chute, new brake lines, strange front brakes...
i'll be very proud of it once its done but its just a long trip there...
but we stripped everything out of the car and im turning it into a "race car" .... 3 gallon fuel cell up front, bbc, chute, new brake lines, strange front brakes...
i'll be very proud of it once its done but its just a long trip there...
05-28-2008, 01:26 PM
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I just bought a air over hydrualic bender, Tube notcher, Bending software and already have all the welding equipment and skill. You guys make me want to buy a plasma cutter and go to town on my car. I am really trying to keep this one streetable. You guys are not making that easy.
Man I have done everything on my car with an angle grinder, cut off disks and a sawzaw. I wish I had a plasma cutter, it would seriously take the cutting a removing metal time at least 10x faster easy.
Easiest way is to buy a 10 point cage which has almost everything you need bent and add the rest of the tubing, which would be the funny car cage, 2 forward engine compartment bars and maybe a rear halo if you do a pro stock style rear bar setup.
I'm trying to keep the bends to a minimum, straight bars are always stronger than a bent bar.
That's how I did my last tube frame back half car and it saved a lot of time and money.
05-28-2008, 03:49 PM
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we dont have a plasma either... we used a sawzall and grinder also... sawzall kicked my *** on the rear wheel wells... that **** is 3 or 4 sheets thick in some places... i eventually used a map torch even though it was a little messy and untidy... oh well... thats the one i welded up cause it got a little hot... whoops...
05-28-2008, 05:30 PM
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we dont have a plasma either... we used a sawzall and grinder also... sawzall kicked my *** on the rear wheel wells... that **** is 3 or 4 sheets thick in some places... i eventually used a map torch even though it was a little messy and untidy... oh well... thats the one i welded up cause it got a little hot... whoops...
I just want a plasma cutter at the shop. If I decide to do anything more than a 10pt I will go 25.2 stock suspension. I haven't decided fuy on a power plant. May as well finish the chassis first.
05-28-2008, 06:05 PM
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Turbo or pro charger is the way to go. The same build I am doing with a 509 BBC made 1,500 hp on pump gas with twin 80mm turbos, and makes 1,800 hp on race gas, and that's with a shift point under 7,000 rpm.
You could run slightly larger turbos and meth and make and easy 2,000 hp.
05-28-2008, 10:43 PM
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If you go 25.2, which is a lot of work why wouldn't you run a 4 link? Stock suspension has gone really fast, but as far as tuning and adjustability a 4 link can't be beat.
Turbo or pro charger is the way to go. The same build I am doing with a 509 BBC made 1,500 hp on pump gas with twin 80mm turbos, and makes 1,800 hp on race gas, and that's with a shift point under 7,000 rpm.
You could run slightly larger turbos and meth and make and easy 2,000 hp.
Turbo or pro charger is the way to go. The same build I am doing with a 509 BBC made 1,500 hp on pump gas with twin 80mm turbos, and makes 1,800 hp on race gas, and that's with a shift point under 7,000 rpm.
You could run slightly larger turbos and meth and make and easy 2,000 hp.
a car that weighs in at 2800 lbs and has 2000 hp and a 4link should be able to run in the 4.70s in the 8th mile.... theres a reason few cars can do that...
06-02-2008, 08:58 AM
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a taller spring is on the way... the 10" spring was too short!
strange front brake kit and race craft 2" drop spindle
the race craft spindle is sweet! it required no cutting at all to mount the strange brake kit on... the only thing is they tap the holes with a fine thread and strange sends a coarse thread.... but that is it... brakes took a total of about 20 min. to shim and put on... only one shim on the outside!
Beautiful!
06-02-2008, 11:13 AM
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the spring should have pressure while the shocks are fully extended or it loses its function for adjustability... and if my rear drops or hops at teh track for some reason i dont want it popping off the perch....
has to do with the stroke length of the shock not tire size....
has to do with the stroke length of the shock not tire size....
06-02-2008, 11:22 AM
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I was thinking you couldn't get the ride hight you wanted, but my 10" springs still fit with the rear dropped, I think maybe my adjuster was a little longer than yours.
I looked at the photo and it looks like it is about 1" too short, do you think you'll be able to lower it enough with the 12" spring?
I looked at the photo and it looks like it is about 1" too short, do you think you'll be able to lower it enough with the 12" spring?
06-02-2008, 01:21 PM
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if i have to ill undo the top shock mount, jack it up and then attach top mount of shock.... who knows we may not need it to sit that low but i'd rather have it ready to adjust all the way up or down if need be...