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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:48 AM
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Default 402 & APS TT in Kuwait results inside !!

2003 Z06 712RWHP-725RWTQ @11 psi and it has more to go when we boost it up

mods are:
APS TT KIT 11PSI
Speed INC 402 short block , 225 AFR Heads
Speed INC TU1 camshaft 225/225 .581/.581 113
Fast 90MM intake
A&A FUEL SYSTEM
Snow performance methanol injection ( haven't used it yet)
B&B bullet exhaust system
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:09 AM
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Nice numbers man and i think i have seen your Yellow Z06 somewhere around youtube unfinished anyway what is the CR ?!

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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Awesome numbers for such low boost great work any pics or vids???

Why is the power dropping so fast ??? Maybe the cam is too small???
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy_thNW-oRM

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:19 AM
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Nice Mashallah.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by venom ws7
Awesome numbers for such low boost great work any pics or vids???

Why is the power dropping so fast ??? Maybe the cam is too small???
big Cube and a little small cam and boost starts to fall after 5500 to 10-9 PSI uptop

it would make more after we turn the boost up ;D and still has more left over in the Tune

pics are going to be uploaded ASAP
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bad95killer
nice numbers man and i think i have seen your yellow z06 somewhere around youtube unfinished anyway what is the cr ?!

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9.5 cr :d
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by XPerformance
9.5 cr :d
Thanks man

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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Default @12 psi

here is another graph @12 PSI
736RWHP 749RWTQ

@4500 rpm it dips because it went too rich

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Congrats Faisal for last cars that you done with them for everything also tuning and with really good results

About the Aziz vette TT has Hidden power inside it as i see it but it's still nice

Videos for both corvettes is with me right now and soon will upload them at same that you post them

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HERE'S THE DYNO VIDEO

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4YcDTiWEk

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Nice results. That cam is considered small on stock cubes these days, much less a 402. Not that you're hurting for more power as I'm sure traction is a joke.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Dont know too much about turbo graphs, but why does the power start to drop by 5400rpms??
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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because the turbos are not matched to either motor or cam.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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the boost drops off after 5000 rpm and the cam is too small for this engine
new numbers are coming soon when we change the cam
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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nice keep us posted when you up the boost.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Be following this thread closely as you can see have a pretty similar combo. Same heads, 408, same intake. Have underdrive and have cutout not sure how your exhaust compares .I have just ypipe and the cutout in the intermediate pipe.
Of course it would be nice to see some higher power levels and not sure which turbos these are .are they same as the c5 or are they garretts on this one. I would think that low lsa is really bleeding off boost and not sure how much the low lsa hurts the top end.
Lingenfelter uses my cam in most of there builds for 408 and think even 427 and am sure they pull to like 7000. My cam is mellow on the lift well do have 1.8s to bring it up to 590 range and fairly mild on duration and is also normal big split .Wonder how much that having no split hurts it and of course my lsa is 121 compared to 113.

Wish had some dyno charts to compare. I was hoping to come close to 800rwhp with auto on 15 to 16psi. With the standard turbos but guess going to upgraded f body ones is possible too.

Will check that aps website to see which turbos on on the c5 z06.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Ok they are standard smaller mits that I have on my car. So these turbos should peak around 1000 engine hp ,850 rwhp or so on standard cars and 800rwhp on autos roughly assuming 15 and 20 % driveline losses.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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Also curioius about timing and afr. Is this speed density or maf ? Should pick up some with the snow installed. What octane?
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Ok found this maybe post dyno graph later..

On 10psi of boost, Adam's TT car made:

Brake Horsepower / Torque Ratings (RWHP/RWTQ):
741 HP @ 5400 RPM / 809 TQ @ 4800 RPM



Engine-
Iron LQ9 Built by Texas Speed
Displacement: 360ci punched out to 408ci
Compression: 9.2:1
Oiling: Ported High flow
Crankshaft: Callies 4.00" "Dragonslayer"
Connecting Rods: Scat H-beam
Pistons: Diamond Racing forged custom set: 4.005" Bore, 4.000" Stroke,
6.125" Rod Length, 1.115" CD, -28cc Dish, HD H-13 Wrist Pins, ARP 2000 bolts, Plasma moly rings
Camshaft: Comp Cam 232/238, 595/598, 115 LSA.
Rocker Arms: Hydraulic
Intake Manifold: Pro Products prototype typhoon intake
Ignition/Computer: Tuned by Williams Performance
Headers: APS Turbo headers
Exhaust: Magnaflow Catback, street pro cutout,
Cooling System: Stock Radiator, APS Front mount intercooler

Fuel- Pump gas 93
Pump: APS twin in tank HO pumps
Regulator: APS Custom
Lines: -8 throughout, with stock lines as return
Injectors: #95lb Acceleronics/ versafueler
Rails: Pro products High flow. Anodized w/ cross flow

Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: Viper built T-56 by Tick Performance
Clutch/Converter: RAM Spec stage 3
Driveshaft: 3 1/2" Aluminum
Rear Axle: Ford 9" 35 spline with Detroit locker, 3.25 gears

Chassis-

This car definitely didn't fall off like the one above did. And the cam is not that radical. But has a better lsa for one thing. And only 10psi. Build 408. So much for Predators Z theories it certainly looks like hitting at least 800rwhp is doable with the 408 and these turbos. Cam does seem to be holding it back. Also could the power drop off be fuel or
clutch slipping if its an m6 car?.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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congrads on the # very nice brother.

may I recommend you take off that pos fast 90. Right now if it is new it will make extra 10-15rwhp watever but once it starts to leak (6months time) you will start LOOSEING power. Put the ls6 back on and watch your boost and power come back. Again may not be happening now but in the future it will. Just lookin out.


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