TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results
10-04-2003, 11:00 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Great #'s Scott! Hate to hear the tranny "**** the bed!" 
I bet that will make a stock 10 bolt beg for mercy! How many ring and pinions have you been through? Good luck with the setup!
BTW, The wife hates you as I have to buy more parts for the SS now! JK
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I bet that will make a stock 10 bolt beg for mercy! How many ring and pinions have you been through? Good luck with the setup!BTW, The wife hates you as I have to buy more parts for the SS now!
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10-04-2003, 11:20 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Man look at all that torque you lost down low its amazing! I bet that cam would really suck around town below 2 grand I bet its a dog..... 
but for real, those are some great numbers! thats a lot of powa! congrats!
but for real, those are some great numbers! thats a lot of powa! congrats!
10-04-2003, 11:48 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Nice numbers gomer. Congrats on the new setup. Its a great cam and you will love it - believe me.
And yeah it would really suck to have ONLY 200+ lb-ft of torque below 2 grand :p I think thats plenty to get even the fattest of fbodies rolling from a stop light. And lets remember that with a cam - you are usually going to run a higher idle so that time from idle to 2K rpm is much shorter than stock to 2K rpm.
I run this same cam in my car with JPR S1 LS6 heads and it put down very competitve numbers. Oh and it drives around like a dream, and runs like a banshee at the upper RPMs.
And yeah it would really suck to have ONLY 200+ lb-ft of torque below 2 grand :p I think thats plenty to get even the fattest of fbodies rolling from a stop light. And lets remember that with a cam - you are usually going to run a higher idle so that time from idle to 2K rpm is much shorter than stock to 2K rpm.
I run this same cam in my car with JPR S1 LS6 heads and it put down very competitve numbers. Oh and it drives around like a dream, and runs like a banshee at the upper RPMs.
10-05-2003, 12:20 AM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results
Nice numbers gomer. Congrats on the new setup. Its a great cam and you will love it - believe me.
And yeah it would really suck to have ONLY 200+ lb-ft of torque below 2 grand :p I think thats plenty to get even the fattest of fbodies rolling from a stop light. And lets remember that with a cam - you are usually going to run a higher idle so that time from idle to 2K rpm is much shorter than stock to 2K rpm.
I run this same cam in my car with JPR S1 LS6 heads and it put down very competitve numbers. Oh and it drives around like a dream, and runs like a banshee at the upper RPMs.
And yeah it would really suck to have ONLY 200+ lb-ft of torque below 2 grand :p I think thats plenty to get even the fattest of fbodies rolling from a stop light. And lets remember that with a cam - you are usually going to run a higher idle so that time from idle to 2K rpm is much shorter than stock to 2K rpm.
I run this same cam in my car with JPR S1 LS6 heads and it put down very competitve numbers. Oh and it drives around like a dream, and runs like a banshee at the upper RPMs.
And like you say, the way it PULLS.. OMG, it is unreal the way it just rushes to 6,500rpms.
10-05-2003, 07:04 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results The heads have a stock deck height but 59cc chambers.. I think it is right around 11.5:1
My set is on the way so I'm ready to try them out
Whats great about this setup is every set of heads & ever cam is the same. Anyone could order this same package Monday morning & I could have them shipping to them early this week! Thats one of the many advantages of CNC ported heads! No favorites everyone gets the best heads & the best price!
Gomer is the surging gone from the car down low now that the tune is correct? That ported maf was really hurting the car!
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10-05-2003, 07:10 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Yeah, it is much better.. drives just like stock now and isn't as rich when it idles. I haven't driven it much since the trans is screwed. I'm going to pull it out tomorrow night and let Tony go thru it. You guys just don't know how much I appreciate all the help and expert advice!!!!
10-05-2003, 08:31 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Those arwe some great numbers. I wonder how they would do with a big reverse split cam? Any one try these heads yet with something like a TR230 or X1?
10-05-2003, 08:33 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Wow. Must be nice to "try" PPS2 heads then jump to LS6/LQ9 style heads with a big cam. Trevor, see if you can figure out why my Predator won't let me turn past stock rev limiter. I'll be calling Diablosport Monday. I got a feeling that's killing my cam power band.
10-06-2003, 09:37 AM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results
Great #'s Scott! Hate to hear the tranny "**** the bed!" I bet that will make a stock 10 bolt beg for mercy! How many ring and pinions have you been through? Good luck with the setup!
BTW, The wife hates you as I have to buy more parts for the SS now! JK
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I bet that will make a stock 10 bolt beg for mercy! How many ring and pinions have you been through? Good luck with the setup!BTW, The wife hates you as I have to buy more parts for the SS now!
JKJohn
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10-07-2003, 10:52 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Gomer, I know your going to hate me but there is a spike in that graph, while still very impressive and you should be very happy it looks like you made around 443hp, the graph is confusing with the 440 line running across the sheet and the 450 dash just above it, What I have seen is 59cc's is 11.3 to 1. please dont hate me but you cant include a spike as hp this is what throws people off when comparing graphs, Good luck with it glad to see your running strong
10-08-2003, 06:37 AM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Nne14at9,
I was personally there,it was 451.4 rwhp.It made 448 on the first pull.With the spike it was higher.
I was personally there,it was 451.4 rwhp.It made 448 on the first pull.With the spike it was higher.
10-08-2003, 06:53 AM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results
Gomer, I know your going to hate me but there is a spike in that graph, while still very impressive and you should be very happy it looks like you made around 443hp, the graph is confusing with the 440 line running across the sheet and the 450 dash just above it, What I have seen is 59cc's is 11.3 to 1. please dont hate me but you cant include a spike as hp this is what throws people off when comparing graphs, Good luck with it glad to see your running strong
10-08-2003, 08:12 AM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results Looks like round one will be just a TR224/112, followed by a 12 bolt. I know the 10 isn't gonna hold and just don't want to mess with it. Next year the car will be getting a set of Patriot heads though. That is if I can hold off the Corvette bug!
10-08-2003, 05:03 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results How much are those heads? I already have that cam and put down 401 rwhp. I just wanted to see how much those heads are for my future plans.
10-08-2003, 05:22 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results The heads are $1795.00 a pair (NO CORE) loaded. 
Stage 2 heads with competition series 2.02/1.57 stainless valves ,Crane dual springs ,Titanium retainers ,solid bronze guides , teflon race seals.The heads flow great and make awesome power.
Stage 2 heads with competition series 2.02/1.57 stainless valves ,Crane dual springs ,Titanium retainers ,solid bronze guides , teflon race seals.The heads flow great and make awesome power. 
10-08-2003, 06:02 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results
How much are those heads? I already have that cam and put down 401 rwhp. I just wanted to see how much those heads are for my future plans.
Feel free to give us a call when you're ready to get a set on order or if you have any questions.
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10-08-2003, 07:58 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results 40 HP is a big gain for the swap when you started with PP 5.3 heads. Sure the cam is good for 10 - 15 HP but I'm surprised to see that much gain. Is the porting design improved on the LS6 style heads?
10-08-2003, 08:50 PM
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Re: TSP231/237 Patriot LS6 style head: Dyno Results
Any word on my stuff Terry?
This head design is very solid.In smaller cams it is worth atleast 10 rwhp over a 5.3 head.It only gets better with a larger cam or bigger CID.
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Originally Posted by gomer
Drove the 75 miles down to Walker Dyno Tune today, strapped the car down and made three pulls without a cooldown. The best one was 451.4rwhp 403.5rwtq, the other two were over 450rwhp and 400rwtq also. This was with NO DYNO tricks and at an independant dyno, not at TSP!! Also, I DO NOT have an electric waterpump yet and I was spinning 17x11 rears. Another item of note is that on the first run my trans (which had been acting up) decided to hang in fourth gear.. so for the other dyno runs I started the car in fourth gear, so all the people that were saying the TSP cam doesn't have torque.. well I beg to differ. Also the dyno at walker is not a "high" dyno.. for example, right after I dyno'd Mitchell McCord dyno'd his 2002 Z06 with the RP motorsports Stage II H/C package.. his third pull made 426rwhp and 38xrwtq.. at RP a few month ago it made 440rwhp. The 918 springs didn't break and the cam peaked right at 6300rpm. I have the graph scanned, but cannot host it.. if someone can post it for me, please mail me at sculbert1@netzero.net and I'll mail it to you in the morning...I've had a long day and I'm going to bed now. I'd like to thank Blake Walker of Walker Dyno Tune, Terry from Patriot Performance, Jason and Trevor from TSP.. you guys made my dream of having a 450rwhp daily driver come true!!
THANKS!
Scott Culbert
THANKS!
Scott Culbert
What type of dyno did you make this much power on? Was it a dynojet or a mustang dyno?