The Guy in MY 99TA

Uhhh..... nowhere in your sig did you state the color of the car....... I'm trying to remember which car this was b/c I didn't remember seeing a c5 break and I was there all day saturday(which it could have happened Sunday)

Anyways CONGRATS!!!!!!!!! Looks like I might end up with a set of TEA's!!

Josh S.

ne14a6t9

well Brian if I remember correctly there was a guy that only dynoed 420 on LG's dyno with your heads and a g5x2 and all the bolt ons, Lou came on a said that the reason was becuase the heads dont flow well up top in the 600 lift area, which has been found to be true by a few others that had them independantly flowed, you addmitted having a new valve job to solve the early stalling issue, You then said that Lous cam makes no power and only damages valvetrain components and makes them unreliable {by the way nice cam in your sig} since then you have bashed Patriot a number of times and also Absolute a few times so you tell me who the trouble maker is here, you then come on with a post this morning with intent to bash other vendors and cuase friction on the board so take your own advise and keep the tech in ls1 tech. I have tried my best lately not to seem to bash you, like I said before I post nothing but the facts, while you do have some good results from your heads you have an awfull lot of low numbers and dissapointed customers, I dont know were all these 450 dyno's your talking about is coming from, I never seem them and I look at all the dyno results on this board so its not a mystery to me how two guys with the exact set up dynoed the same exact numbers. I dont mean to be rude to you but when you bash LG, Patriot and Absolute like you have done plenty of times I feel offended because I am a fan of all three vendors you bash.

Also get off of the kiss my advertising dollars goodbye thing. This Is the biggest, baddast, and BEST ls1 forum in the world, you and your other vendor friends are not going anywere. give me a break where are you going to go to a kiddie site were all you will be geting is calls from kids asking you how much power they will get from an ls6 intake and air lid on there bone stock z28, get real

chevydan

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Mr.Tooley

With hooker long tubes duel exaust 3in with bullets ls6 intake c2 cam stock heads and no tuning no pullies and no tb the car put down 372hp and 361rwt. That is why i am frustrated. I have dyno sheets to fax to you if you want.But if i pull the heads back off will you check them for me for no cost except shipping.
I am pretty sure there is no other issues i have been a mechanic for 10 years i use tech 2 to log knock and there is none.Besides being underpowered the car runs perfect even idles great!!!

Thank you for your help.

99 Black Bird T/A

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NE,

You are so out of line posting Lou's comments then attacking TEA without any personal first hand experience with any of the products in question that you should be banned. Your constantly harassing with your worthless opinion at least one specific sponsor with out any technical data. Most of us interested in tech really get sick of seeing your slime on the screen.



As for the folks with the C2 and 1.5's techincal discussion in another thread would be the right thing to do.

Otherwise, discussion need to focus on the topic at hand.

chevydan

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Superslow i dont know what to do either. I am out of money got to work 2 months to save enough up (wife no longer funds the fun!).

ne14a6t9

blackbird, I only learn from people like you who has posted several times your tea head flow numbers in the past, remember stalling at 500 only flowing 250 through the intake, now all of a sudden your an *** kisser, we have 2 guys that spent alott of money { some of there wifes money to} to only gain 20 hp, why dont you tell them why, you know you know why. I was the first to tell them to put up a seperate post so this post doesnt get off topic, I was also the first to tell them they have the wrong cams not the wrong heads. Just becuase I never had tea heads doesnt mean I havent seen a pattern with other dyno results and mods, there is no reason to try to get me banned I am not bashing anyone

Brian Tooley Racing

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[QUOTE=ne14a6t9]well Brian if I remember correctly there was a guy that only dynoed 420 on LG's dyno with your heads and a g5x2 and all the bolt ons, Lou came on a said that the reason was becuase the heads dont flow well up top in the 600 lift area,

Did he flow them? I am sure he didn't, there has been more people flow the heads with the same results that we got when we flowed (Phil99vette at GTP) them but somehow that gets looked over, but if they don't flow up top, then holy cow, they must all do that. I have had my heads flowed for almost 10 years by everyone, alot are within 1% but then somehow someone elses is off 5-10% but then they put them on the car and it makes the power so then I just blow off the flow numbers as someone that can't use a flowbench.

You then said that Lous cam makes no power and only damages valvetrain components and makes them unreliable {by the way nice cam in your sig}

I did not say that, some guy came on here and asked if he should put that cam in his daily driver and I told him that I would not use this cam in a daily driver because I had broke an exhaust spring on my car the day before. So all I said was I WOULD NOT run this cam in a DAILY DRIVER. Thats all, but then once Lou cut my head off I did know of several people that had broke springs with this cam and one that had lost power and actually didn't get to come dyno his car because it broke an exhaust spring before he got it to Bowling Green. I was simply bashing Lou AFTER he had cut my head off. Of course Lou informed me that I didn't have his cam, but then on Corvette forum once I went 9.87 it was his cam, go fiqure.

since then you have bashed Patriot a number of times

I did not bash PP, they stated that they were using Comp springs, which they were not, but then once someone said "TEA uses Comp springs, their heads must be unreliable also" I hit the roof. They did not buy springs from Comp and was making us honest vendors that do use Comp springs (BTW with little issue) look bad. So was I supposed to set quite while PP made our heads look bad just because they were lying about their spring vendor ????? Telling the truth is not bashing it is telling the truth, as least thats what you say.

and also Absolute a few times

If I did, I am sorry, I have no problem with Jay even though he bashed me during Lou's deal. I told Jay that I have respect for what he does because I know how hard it is to do what he is trying to do, with the hand porting, as I did it for years.

you then come on with a post this morning with intent to bash other vendors and cuase friction

I did? thats strange, I didn't post anything this morning. Brent did post something but it had no vendor name attached to it, so who were we bashing????

I dont know were all these 450 dyno's your talking about is coming from, I never seem them and I look at all the dyno results on this board

Speed Inc. (LS1 Speed) in Chitown 448 RWHP A4 car
GMMG in Fatlanta 449 RWHP 12 bolt who posted many times

Believe it, they are real, and run low 11's at 124-125 with 3400+ lbs You only choose to remember the negative and forget the positive.

99 Black Bird T/A

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NE,

*** kissing not really...it's your vendetta against TEA it's sickening.

I know what the deal WITH my heads was. I don't know what the deal with their heads is because I didn't TEST their heads.

For all I know retarding the cam 2 degrees in their set ups will increase peak rwhp. Did they degree their respective cams in or install dot to dot?

Have the motors been tested for leak down?

chevydan

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Ok this is getting out of hand me and superslow are only asking for help.

99 Black Bird T/A

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Chevy your right and the focus needs to be back on the issue...help.

Sent a PM, probably stuff you've thought about

Classic

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NE,
May I ask you what mods YOU have actually put on your car as you quote your sig "go fast goodies coming soon". Is your only way of finding out what products work via internet?

I have personally seen the 449 rwhp Georgia car. The owner is a good friend of mine and it was his daily driver. BTW, it did that with an F1 cam (mild by todays standards) and through a ford 9'' with 4.30 gears. That same car made 39x rwhp with that F1 cam with a mild tune and through the 10 bolt. So the TEA heads made a TON of power - dyno proven and track tested. On that same day, on the next pull - I put down 430rwhp with my car with a street tune (no dyno tuning) through a 10 bolt with a set of JPR S1 LS6 heads and the TSP 231/237 cam. So I know the number wasn't bull.

Why don't you come down to Atlanta with your "little red corvette" and see what all the TEA cars in the area can do. I know of atleast 5 people down here running there heads and they couldn't be happier. Oh and these aren't the first set of heads they have had either - these are the hardcore guys looking for that last bit of power. And guess what they all chose TEA - there is a reason.

My new set of heads are TEA heads. They will be paired with an appropriate cam, and a BIG one at that. All backed by a full array of bolt ons and through a 10 bolt so that everyone can compare the numbers to the Cartek and LG numbers.

Anyway, TEA congrats on the new heads, and NE - stay off the boards.

SuperSlowSSLS1

I hear that iam just frustrated with this whole thing..
I mean why cant we make even 430rwhp
With a cam alone u schould be at 400hp
and i had 350 before this I was expecting u no at least 40 to 50 from the heads. maby 25 from the cam
But we got close to 50 from both..
dont no what to do.. It's gonna be a B*tch if I have to pull the heads again.. PM so we can try to figure this out..

jmX

From this point on, this thread needs to stay 100% technical oriented. Its going into the trash pile if it doesn't straighten itself out.

93Polo

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Brian,

Great talking to you yesterday. I went by GMMG just after getting off the phone with you. I saw plenty of dyno sheets with results very close together as you mention. Should be some interesting things coming out of your shop.

Good luck and hopefully in the near future we will continue that cam discussion.

Classic,

As you said currently at LEAST 5 and sounds like there will be 7 in the near future.

ONEBADWS6

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The 448rwhp car at Speed is a good friend of mine, with just a cam (224/224, .581@112)and ptb the car made 397rwhp. After just bolting on his Tea heads he made 448rwhp with no under drive pulley. The car weighs 3600+ and with a slick went 11.08. My car running on 7 cylenders went 11.7@112 with a 3650 raceweight. So yes Tea heads work, if they don't for you there is most likely a problem with your setup. My #'s and my friends were with Tea's original valve job to. If you think there is a problem with your heads send them back, Brian is a stand up guy and will look at them for you.

chevydan

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Mr.Tooley if i removed the heads how long will it take to check them if i sent them to you.Just wondering because like superslow my car is a everyday driver myonly means of transportation.

SuperSlowSSLS1

Yes Mr. Tooley I was going to ask u the same thing its my daily driver.. How long to u think that it will take.?
It its also my only means of transportation.