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Old 12-19-2003, 09:12 AM
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Nice!
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Now that I've seen your mods, I'm impressed still, but not as much as before.

I can't believe nobody caught it, he is running a 13.0 compression which, he is most likely running race gas. Also that nice intake sure helps out a bit too.

I'd like to see what that 346 would do with 11.5 or less compression.

Now let's see that dyno graph.........


How many 346-350 cube engines do you know of that make 520 rwhp NA on pump gas? This is quite an accomplishment, and a new record for LS1 development. If making 500+ rwhp was so easy, everyone would be doing it now. You already know what guys are making with 11.5 cr and factory intakes, about 425-450 rwhp.

There is always a sacrifice involved if you want to make alot of power. I'm sure we may never see a 500+ rwhp 346ci daily-drivable, pump gas running LS1, that will last 100,000 miles. Lets be realistic here.
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What gas you using n/a Allen 104 u/l or 110 l?
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Originally Posted by Futral Motorsports
Thanks everybody... One thing correction sucks,made 554hp\476tq raw! First pull was 482 hp at 11.8 A\F,had the tuning on the rich side since I went racing a day after the engine was finished with no dyno time or break in. The 3 nitrous passes in Ennis broke her in Ran 9.89@143.5 on a spinning 1.50 60' even jetting down 50hp.

Here is a run down on the setup:

-FMS Race ported LS6 heads,2.055"\1.60" custom Manley valves
-FMS nitrous spec solid roller cam -? ( not that little 233 cam )
-T&D rockers w\Comp 9990 coated 1.55" springs
-Diamond custom nitrous pistons 13.0 CR
-Eagle H-beam rods
-FMS custom sheetmetal w\dual 58mm T\B
-FMS 1 3\4"-1 7\8" stepped headers w\bullits
-Autolite AR472 nitrous plugs on C16 gas(not N\A friendly)
-STOCK water pump still

-12 bolt w\4.30 gears
-22lb steel driveshaft
-steel flywheel w\RAM 910 clutch
-Stock SS wheels w\275-40 DR's

It still drives good on the street,just a little more choppy at idle. Once I get the trans out and pro-shifited,will be making some more passes in Jan.
C16 = 116 Octane,this gas and the plugs are what was in it for nitrous. It is really to much octane for this CR,so it can make more power with less octane! I normally use 103 ul for N\A racing and 93 for street use.
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball


How many 346-350 cube engines do you know of that make 520 rwhp NA on pump gas? This is quite an accomplishment, and a new record for LS1 development. If making 500+ rwhp was so easy, everyone would be doing it now. You already know what guys are making with 11.5 cr and factory intakes, about 425-450 rwhp.

There is always a sacrifice involved if you want to make alot of power. I'm sure we may never see a 500+ rwhp 346ci daily-drivable, pump gas running LS1, that will last 100,000 miles. Lets be realistic here.
Yes the numbers are impressive, but come on, most people that want high HP numbers drive their cars on the street and don't always use 100+ octane fuel all the time.

Did you see that 427 build up More Peformance did? I think they hit almost 800HP. Yes not the same cubes, but they had a high CR and were using high octane gas to get those numbers.

Put 93-94 octane gas in there with the same tuning, then lets see how much power it makes, probably 470 RWHP...

I am far from an expert, but seriously, having a high CR and high octane fuel, you will get higher HP numbers regardless....
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Like he said , for street use,93 octane. I know of lots of guy's who add race gas at the track or for street raceing with just over 11 to 1 . With 104 octane he probably would make more but not nos freindly.

(Put 93-94 octane gas in there with the same tuning, then lets see how much power it makes, probably 470 RWHP...)

WHich is still awsome, put 116 fuel in the other high hp cars and see what they do, drop off 20 hp or so.
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Allan , are you gonna be at Hattiesburg with us on Febuary 15th for the north vs south LA shootout? They have been prepping the **** out of the Track lately.
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the MORE motor was Flywheel.
WTG FMS
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that is simply awesome.
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Originally Posted by Reckless
I don't car what Candy says, Alan is "THE MAN"

Thats what he has been trying to tell me all of these years

but I have to give him props... he is very intelligent and works very hard and yes Im racking up brownie points for Christmas .
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
Allan , are you gonna be at Hattiesburg with us on Febuary 15th for the north vs south LA shootout? They have been prepping the **** out of the Track lately.

Yep I will be there
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WELL!!! did you do any N2O pulls yet?
Old 12-22-2003, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 99ta
WELL!!! did you do any N2O pulls yet?

Not yet, very soon... with the exception of me playing the other night I have been doing nothing but trying to get our new shop ready. Finally got finished today, moving in tomorrow. Might be able to make some NOS pulls this weekend.
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That's awesome Allan... look for me to come knocking on your door next year to build me one of them after I get my house built.
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Congrats Allan On getting the shop finished, I will try to get by there to check it out soon. Do you have the wide band o2 sensor for the dyno yet? I may be getting some 30lb injectors and may need to get you to retune it.
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
Congrats Allan On getting the shop finished, I will try to get by there to check it out soon. Do you have the wide band o2 sensor for the dyno yet? I may be getting some 30lb injectors and may need to get you to retune it.
Thanks Chad, we are glad to be finished but moving everything does suck. Come by and check it out. Yep the wide band is on the dyno, just let me know if you want a retune.
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That is absolutely badass Allan!
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Congrats! Awesome numbers Allan! Is it me or has allan and futral motorsports really been putting out some awesome cars and awesome customer service. Keep up the good work!
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Little late guys, eh?
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Never to late! Well... December 20 was awhile back


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