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Old 05-11-2011, 04:36 PM
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Are these heads too much for a 5.3 with a shift around 6500RPM?

Mods are in sig. 13.24@111 2.165 60ft.
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Originally Posted by DavidGXP
Are these heads too much for a 5.3 with a shift around 6500RPM?

Mods are in sig. 13.24@111 2.165 60ft.
If you can get the CR past 10.5:1 to 11.1:1 or a little higher that smaller cam that you have will have some nice cylinder filling at lower rpm since your cam doesn't have crazy duration. Even with the bigger intake port on your 5.3 I don't think it would hurt your low end or mid range much at all in fact it should pick up a lot in the mid range and may even gain a tad in the low end as long as the CR stays at 11.1:1. So thinner head gasket, milling the heads down, and zero decking your engine would be enough IMO to use the 227cc intake port that these CNC 243's have. Again this will likely be possible due to your cam only having 218/222 degrees of duration, but you will definately want to check ptvc clearance before firing it up.
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Curious what kind of gains I could get over my Gen 1 PRC Stage 1 243's (before they revamped there cnc. 304cfm @ .600 and fell off hard above .600). I was looking to get a set of TEA or AI's 243's. Mods in sig.
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The results are nice. I gained 5 tenths from afr out of the box 205 heads years ago. and that was over a top sponsors cc ported ls1 heads. More options for people on buying heads. real nice and the track backs it up too.

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I know this car from somewhere lol
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nice numbers.....blast to drive i bet.....
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Originally Posted by low2001gmc
nice numbers.....blast to drive i bet.....
Did you just copy/paste this reply in both threads?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/15374388-post21.html
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Are these the 218cc or the 226cc?

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Old 09-11-2011, 10:22 PM
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You'll have to ask Phil, I don't remember. It's been 2+ yrs since I first put these heads on this car.
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Originally Posted by Damian
Did you just copy/paste this reply in both threads?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/15374388-post21.html
busted.....yeah i copied and changed it up in a 3rd thread all with ai heads i am considering and was comparing mods and dyno numbers of all 3 but sincere and truthful for whatever its worth.....with those kind of hp and torque numbers......blast to drive i bet.....
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I might have missed it, but did the car ever get the ported intake, etc?
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Originally Posted by BlueBird346
Are these the 218cc or the 226cc?

Resurrecting this for the same question...

218cc OR 226cc ???

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Originally Posted by sidestep
resurrecting this for the same question...

218cc or 226cc ???

Originally Posted by damian
You'll have to ask phil, i don't remember. It's been 2+ yrs since i first put these heads on this car.




I'll see if I can get Phil to chime in.
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Does the guy still own that car?
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Ive looked at this thread lately but didnt wanna bump it up. Was it ever re-dynoed after the other mods?
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Originally Posted by Damian


I'll see if I can get Phil to chime in.
Thanks!

I have been through SEVERAL sets of heads in my wrenching life. My experience is that sub-3000rpm, part-throttle, tip-in suffer from "over-sized" intake runners. They of course will punch out a big peak HP, but I actually drive my cars and I am unwilling to throw away sub-3000rpm performance... I am not so much concerned if these heads actually made more power than the previous heads below 3000rpm, BUT that they did no lose power in that range by comparison.

BTW, I am not saying these heads suffer from the above. I am looking for more results and clarification...
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I can't wait to see what these heads do with a ms3 cam on a 383.
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Does the guy still own that car?
Yep. The short block is getting tired tho. We're in talks of doing a 408ci in the very near future.

Thanks!

I have been through SEVERAL sets of heads in my wrenching life. My experience is that sub-3000rpm, part-throttle, tip-in suffer from "over-sized" intake runners. They of course will punch out a big peak HP, but I actually drive my cars and I am unwilling to throw away sub-3000rpm performance... I am not so much concerned if these heads actually made more power than the previous heads below 3000rpm, BUT that they did no lose power in that range by comparison.

BTW, I am not saying these heads suffer from the above. I am looking for more results and clarification...
I can assure you A.I.'s programs make more power everywhere. Phil is a firm believer (as am I) that moving air fast, is more important than winning flow bench races on the internet. That's why almost all of his CNC programs for GM castings use the stock valves. Bigger valves can hurt low end, they're not necessary, and plenty of power can be had with a stock valve.

I can't wait to see what these heads do with a ms3 cam on a 383.
I'll let you know soon. I just built a 383 that's been installed in a GTO, that will be getting A.I. ported 243's in the near future. For now it's got a Spartan 228/236 and stock 243's, so we'll have another good back/back comparison.
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Originally Posted by Damian
Yep. The short block is getting tired tho. We're in talks of doing a 408ci in the very near future.



I can assure you A.I.'s programs make more power everywhere. Phil is a firm believer (as am I) that moving air fast, is more important than winning flow bench races on the internet. That's why almost all of his CNC programs for GM castings use the stock valves. Bigger valves can hurt low end, they're not necessary, and plenty of power can be had with a stock valve.



I'll let you know soon. I just built a 383 that's been installed in a GTO, that will be getting A.I. ported 243's in the near future. For now it's got a Spartan 228/236 and stock 243's, so we'll have another good back/back comparison.
Cool Im looking forward to seeing the results!
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more then likey there the 226s i dont think they had the 218s then i just got mine done and they didnt have the 218s and that was three months ago roughly


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