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Old 06-29-2011, 09:50 AM
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420-440 as others have stated. No one is hitting 500 rwhp with an ls6 intake on the car and 1 3/4" headers on stock displacement.

Calculators are dumb...there is a lot more to trap speed than just peak horsepower. Gear ratios (tire size as well), average horsepower, torque curve, etc.

You have a very stout car though, 130 mph in the 1/4 is no joke.
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Or you could get the car dynoed, and problem/mystery solved.
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or go pay $30 for 3 pulls and be done with it. Case closed, who gives a **** about dyno #s and what some dumbass calculator says on the internet.
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Originally Posted by BrianC98Z28
or go pay $30 for 3 pulls and be done with it. Case closed, who gives a **** about dyno #s and what some dumbass calculator says on the internet.
that's funny because 99% of the time people are saying, "who cares what a dumbass dyno says, get your car to the track". I will get it on the dyno and it will most likely read 450+/-10rwhp... I was mistakingly following a bad calculator that has proved very accurate for me in the past. 130mph does seem abnormally fast, so I had to ask the question.
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I dont think 130 is fast for your light car. Theres plenty of heads and cam fbodys trapping in the 120 area
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I trap 130mph on a 26'' tire. i'm at 530hp and the car with me is 3,670lbs.
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This one is good

here you can see both RWHP and Engine hp

based on ET time and ET trap

http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/1-...MPH-calculator

but et trap is more accurate unless you have 100% run

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Originally Posted by jetaws6
I dont think 130 is fast for your light car. Theres plenty of heads and cam fbodys trapping in the 120 area
there's also a pretty big difference b/t 120 and 130
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Originally Posted by mike c.
I trap 130mph on a 26'' tire. i'm at 530hp and the car with me is 3,670lbs.

just curious how deep into the 10's are you and what's your 60'?
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Originally Posted by mattster03
there's also a pretty big difference b/t 120 and 130
There's also a big difference between 1000lbs
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Originally Posted by jetaws6
There's also a big difference between 1000lbs
Your typical drag racing Fbody weighs almost 3,900lbs? That's news to me.

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Originally Posted by mattster03
Your typical drag racing Fbody weighs almost 3,900lbs? That's news to me.
3700 with driver is close enough
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Originally Posted by jetaws6
3700 with driver is close enough
haha alright... ask someone who just went through the work to drop 200-300 lbs off a car if that much weight isn't worth taking into account . needless to say i'm pretty happy with the power the car making... whatever it might be. I was really just looking for an explanation as to why a calculator that I have found to be right on in the past is spitting out an unbelievable number... I guess there's just too many factors, but I do agree that the wallace racing one seems much closer to reality.
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Like it was said before I think it was a flywheel number. Your car is definitely in the 450 range though and is trapping a 10 second mph
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Originally Posted by jetaws6
Like it was said before I think it was a flywheel number. Your car is definitely in the 450 range though and is trapping a 10 second mph
From the calculator I linked in my 3rd post:

"Input the Weight and 1/4 mile Trap speed of your vehicle. Our Calculator will generate its rear wheel horsepower".

The wallace one is much better I have come to find, so I will be using it from here on out.

I am definitely working on my 60' times... they are the only thing holding me back right now. I need about 0.150sec to get my 10 second slip... I just bought a set of ET Streets and some skinnies to try and get there in a few weeks.
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10.63@130.08 1.55 60 foot. I normally get lower 1.4 60's but my slicks are four yrs old and shot. I hope this year with a new set and this ported mammo intake vs my unported 102 i can get a 10.49 or something.
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OP, do you have a video of your pass? If so, post it. I'd like to hear your driving skills before making an assumption.

One key fact a lot of people tend to forget when arguing MPH is how fast you shift. I've jumped in peoples' car before that was going slower than it should, and picked up 4-5mph based on better driving/shifting alone. I'm also typically bigger than most of those people (235lbs) so I added weight at the same time.

I'm not saying this is the case with the OP's car, but it is something to think about. A car capable of 135+ traps can be brought down significantly lower with 4 slow shifts.
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Originally Posted by mattster03
I guess I should clarify... I am wondering because I have usually found online calculators such as this one, which use both weight and trap speed, to estimate horsepower. The reason these are generally very accurate is because "simple" physics can be used to estimate force when the accleration and mass is known.

http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
the calculator is correct for flywheel hp. they mislabeled it as rwhp
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My car dyno's 451 rwhp and traps 127mph in about 1000 da. weight is 3200lbs in a camaro.

I would think that with yours being about 300lbs lighter and maybe slightly more areodynamic 130mph would be expected with 450rwhp....ish

But also mine is a 4l60e car with a 3600 unlocked converter and you are 6 speed...

I think I did those online hp/1/4 calculators and they say my car should be 550 rwhp or something...

Either way your car runs killer strong and is deadly from a roll. to bad my dodge ram isn't that way
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Originally Posted by mike c.
10.63@130.08 1.55 60 foot. I normally get lower 1.4 60's but my slicks are four yrs old and shot. I hope this year with a new set and this ported mammo intake vs my unported 102 i can get a 10.49 or something.
are you 6 speed or auto?


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