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Old 12-09-2011, 05:34 PM
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Default Cam swap results EPS vs TEA

Finally had a chance to get back to the dyno and tune with the new EPS cam. The cam pulled was a 232/236 580/580 112 +2
Swapped in an EPS 234/242 .602/.605 112 +4 recommended by Patrick G and Brian Tooley.
Not much gain up top but a nice bump in the low-mid range which was my primary motive in changing cams.

Only change was the cam and tuning. Old cam was tuned also BTW. New cam required more fuel everywhere.
Supporting mods were ported LS6 heads fast 90 with 90 mm LS2 TB and LGM pro headers.
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Interesting. I had a similar experience. I went with an EPS that was a few degrees bigger and my gains were down low too.

It is interesting to note however that the EPS cam has 2 degrees more advance which could easily account for your increase in itself.

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I was wondering why the bigger gain in the lower rpms but pointing out the 2 degree more advance accounts for that. It would appear the bigger cam also has more overlap. How is that effecting your idle?
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
I was wondering why the bigger gain in the lower rpms but pointing out the 2 degree more advance accounts for that. It would appear the bigger cam also has more overlap. How is that effecting your idle?
The intake valve closes only 1 deg earlier. And overlap increased from 10 deg to 14 deg. Idle is great after some tweeking to the tune.
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What is interesting to me is looking at 125mph and higher. The TQ looks to be exactly the same yet there is 5 more HP there and it holds 3hp more till the end of the pull. How can that be when the TQ is exactly the same cam to cam (HP = TQ*RPM/5252)? TQ should show some gain to show some HP gain.


Would also be nice to dyno the graph in RPM instead of MPH.
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didnt notice the 5250 at 1st. ya I never use MPH to know whys thats showing, but I beat its not doing what that graf shows.
I would think the HP is right over each other, and the new cam doesn't carry tq as well?
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wow. more duration, more overlap, more valve lift, more aggressive lobes...and hardly a gain. that wouldn't be worth the effort for a cam swap; to me anyhow.

nice post, sheds some light on cams and what they do. i will say that i haven't seen stellar numbers from the eps cam you swapped in. seems like a fairly large cam, similar to the tried and true g5z3, but does not perform like one. sad to say as the x3 is like 10 years old haha.
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was under the impression the eps were less aggressive lobes?
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Originally Posted by 94 s dime
was under the impression the eps were less aggressive lobes?
They are more controlled to make for smoother valvetrain motion and less drivetrain noise.

I think the other poster referred to them as "aggressive" because they had more lift than the OP's previous cam.
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I probably just would have advanced the 232/236 cam that was in it a few more degrees and left it alone.
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Originally Posted by JPH
I probably just would have advanced the 232/236 cam that was in it a few more degrees and left it alone.
exactly my thought
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Advanced it with an adjustable timing chain set? The greater lift contributes more than anything in my opinion, curious what the KPA difference was between the two runs. Thanks for sharing, Chris
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Originally Posted by s346k
wow. more duration, more overlap, more valve lift, more aggressive lobes...and hardly a gain. that wouldn't be worth the effort for a cam swap; to me anyhow.

nice post, sheds some light on cams and what they do. i will say that i haven't seen stellar numbers from the eps cam you swapped in. seems like a fairly large cam, similar to the tried and true g5z3, but does not perform like one. sad to say as the x3 is like 10 years old haha.
Yea but he picked up a good bit in the meat of the powerband. I can understand maybe not all that work for the gain he had but it was smart IMO. Hell if your bored and got the time, do it. The graph def surprised me though. I wasnt expecting a heavier duration cam to pickup more down low. Interesting.
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There's way more to a cam than @.050" duration, lobe profile plays role...just saying
IE, what was the difference between the two at .006" and .200"?




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