Where is this place and what's it called? I'm in ok also so just want to make sure all my buddys stay away. Pm me if you would rather

 

Lol I guess I'm not really please and it's a place in Oklahoma. Called Abel racing they have a turboed vette that made 1000hp but it's their car not mine so the took time on it and not mine lol

 

This is the first time I've heard bad things about Abel. But that's complete **** if they gave you a tune that won't even idle and want more to fix it again. Is that correct?

 

My stock LS6 (243 heads), longtubes, and shitty "custom" exhaust with a lid put down 365/359.

This was on 4.11's as well. I wouldn't worry yourself with dyno #'s. Take it to the track.

 

yea thats correct they said it will be 440$ to retune 40$ to strap it down and 400$ to buy another credit becuase the old one "expired" even though it was about a month ago it wont idle\

 

Either they are screwing with you or you are screwing with us!

 

Give us their e-mail..I'll send them both of these pages...See how they respond...It's worth letting them see our opinions...No ones really bashing them, but man their getten over on you.

 

Dont feel too bad, my car has similar mods and only made about 20 hp more, prolly cuz mine is a 2002 and has the ls6 intake. I work for the shop that tuned it so i know it is at its best, lol.. It runs very well though so im not too concerned with the numbers..

 

They should at least fix the idle issue..if they didn't get it right the first time.

 

abelracing@coxinet.net

 

dont get me wrong they were cool guys but its like they just wanted to finish it and get me out o ya and they said my idle problem was becuase my cam was too big cuz its 112 lsa even though i know some camaros with WAYYYY bigger cam on a 110 ls1 that idle perfectly fine at 700rpms not 1100 like they have mine

 

Theres always a story behind it, make sure you dont have a vaccum leak.(idle) 360 is low. I've done plenty of 6 speed cars that make 360hp with headers and a lid, and autos that make 350 locked converter. Are you sure they ran it in 2nd gear? If it made 360 at 5500rpm thats not that bad, especially in 2nd gear.

what kind of dyno

 

that is the biggest load of BULL **** I have ever read on this forum. Any tuner worth his salt knows he is not perfect and that adjustments sometimes need to be made, just because you drive out of the shop does not ever entitle them immediately to charging you another 500 or another single dime. i would have raised Tee Total Hell. I mean they are already running the car in the wrong damn gear. OMG, this is torture to hear about. my tuner told me last time, if you have anything needs to be changed just drop by and we can get it worked out ok bud!. never had to go back. see the connection there?

 

2 credits is only 99$ with hptuners.

 

I didnt think credits expire with HP tuners? That would be new news to me unless its a different car/pcm.... and even if you had a fautly PCM HPTuners will give you the credits back once you prove you had a PCM go bad.

 

This is ridiculous. I hope I don't have to deal with this crap when I get my car tuned! Although this is the first time I have ever heard of a tuner asking for full price to adjust a tune you already had them do. Never heard of that and I have a good bit of buddies that use all kinds of different tuners. Sounds like scam artists to me.

 

yeah they are feeding you some bullshit yo should not have to pay for any credits if you pay for a tune you pay for a tune.

 

I would expect any deal on an initial dyno tune to at least give you a DISCOUNT on subsequent tunes with mods.

A repeat customer is a GOOD thing. Maybe they don't want to deal with "small fries" who aren't into spending $10k+ on a build or something? I got that vibe from another LS shop out my way (who I won't name cos it's just a vibe..)

You're a good 70whp over my car after tuning even at this. I'd say that's a pretty good increase for a cam and gears. You'd probably see more if you got it past that 5500rpm mark.. maybe go with another shop and consider it a learning experience if they still refuse to discount a repeat tune.

(also, I'm not saying the shop that tuned my car is a bad shop, not at all, the shop I DIDN'T do business with was the bad shop.. that's why I didn't do business with them. )

 

LOL at 1100RPM idle with that cam. My tuner had my Ms4 at 900RPM in about 5 minutes.

Get away from that "performance shop".

 

yea i think im just going to go to another shop and pay them becuase i dont wanna set there while they tell me how i didnt do my car right and how it will be fast if i do this and **** when im 18 with a 2 month old daughter and i needed my car to run to get to work