FAST102/92 vs LS6 on Cam Only LS1
#21
That is a very impressive gain for just and intake mani. Very good to see the results and looks like its gaining power everywhere. Looks like picking up a used fast intake would most certainly b worth the money.
#22
If this was a GTO or a C5 where the intakes are easier to get too I would entertain someone sending me another type of intake to try just for comparison sake. But the pain in the butt it is to pull this intake off, it wont be coming off again until I do some TEA CNC 799 heads.
I will be doing some ARH 1-7/8 headers with ARH Y-pipe to compare to the Pacesetter 1-3/4 and TSP ORY thats on it now.
I will be doing some ARH 1-7/8 headers with ARH Y-pipe to compare to the Pacesetter 1-3/4 and TSP ORY thats on it now.
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Price the intake, matching TB, and the billet rails AND the adapter needed to run stock lines then get back to us. Add in the FTP 100 lid and TSP MAF and you're at 2Gs. Not a cheap mod to do correctly.
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But it isn't out of the ballpark either, especially if you factor in labor (either paid for or personal time spent). I recently did a head swap and it was a lot of work with hidden costs to be accounted for. The manifold swap can be done in a few hours.
Also depends on if parts are purchased new or used. I almost never buy new on non-wear/low chance of failure items.
Injectors will need to be purchased at pretty much any HP point past mild cam only, so I don't think those should be a chalk mark against the swap. A tune is needed for any major mod as well.
You also get to sell stock parts to regain some funds. A ls6 intake is worth $350 easy. Rails, injectors, lid, maf should get another $200 or so.
If the OP puts on better flowing heads, he would benefit more from this previous mod as well.
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Here are the articles Ive seen;
LSXRT on boosted Trailblazer SS (+50rwhp)
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ade/index.html
LSXR 4.8L, 21psi (1200hp)
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/
LSXR Z06 (21psi 8 second car)
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...z06/index.html
LSXRT on boosted Trailblazer SS (+50rwhp)
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ade/index.html
LSXR 4.8L, 21psi (1200hp)
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/
LSXR Z06 (21psi 8 second car)
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...z06/index.html
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That's definitely a pretty healthy chunk of power you picked up. This thread pretty much invalidates all of those claims some people make about the FAST 102 not doing much on a mildly modded stock cube application. It's an expensive piece, but it's worth it IMO, especially if you plan to modify the car much heavier in the future, that's probably when it will REALLY shine.
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I only gained 13whp same time back to back with a FAST over a LS6 on my car
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...vs-fast92.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...vs-fast92.html
#33
Yes the swap is quite expensive but luckily I've collected a bunch of misc fittings, braided line and the other stuff from other builds before that made it cheap this go around. All I had to purchase was the intake cause the rails, TB, fittings, hose, adapter, 60# injectors I had sitting on the shelf.
I know 60#er's are WAY over kill but my 35.5lb Flex Fuel injectors I had planned on using were stopped up.
I know 60#er's are WAY over kill but my 35.5lb Flex Fuel injectors I had planned on using were stopped up.
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You gain power everywhere.
What intake are you running? The 102s aren't that expensive to do..
Cost of intake is 812 shipped brand new(if you know where to look)
Add a 102 TB, and LS2 fuel rails.. Thats it. You dont need to run the billet FAST fuel rails AND the adapter..The LS2 fuel rails connect right onto the stock fuel line.
Go to home depot and spend $1 on shims, and your all set.
TSP 100MM MAF not needed, and not recommended. SD tune for the win.
I bet you where one of those guys that used to say that a 102MM intake is too big for a stock CI motor .
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I agre with jimmy. I was in Memphis last year and I got the chance to tour Comp cams facility. I also got to talk to the guy who engineered the 102. He said that the rumor bout the 102 being to big or a stock ci motor was ridiculous. He said you could put a 12 inch opening on the front it wouldn't matter what mattered was the runners shape and engineering. That was the coolest tour I've ever been on. I would recommend if you were in the area to go check it out.
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The words of someone who doesnt know..One day you will jump on the 102 bandwagon and see for yourself the swap is worth every penny.
You gain power everywhere.
What intake are you running? The 102s aren't that expensive to do..
Cost of intake is 812 shipped brand new(if you know where to look)
Add a 102 TB, and LS2 fuel rails.. Thats it. You dont need to run the billet FAST fuel rails AND the adapter..The LS2 fuel rails connect right onto the stock fuel line.
Go to home depot and spend $1 on shims, and your all set.
TSP 100MM MAF not needed, and not recommended. SD tune for the win.
I bet you where one of those guys that used to say that a 102MM intake is too big for a stock CI motor .
You gain power everywhere.
What intake are you running? The 102s aren't that expensive to do..
Cost of intake is 812 shipped brand new(if you know where to look)
Add a 102 TB, and LS2 fuel rails.. Thats it. You dont need to run the billet FAST fuel rails AND the adapter..The LS2 fuel rails connect right onto the stock fuel line.
Go to home depot and spend $1 on shims, and your all set.
TSP 100MM MAF not needed, and not recommended. SD tune for the win.
I bet you where one of those guys that used to say that a 102MM intake is too big for a stock CI motor .
The FAST 102 is the superior intake over previous Fast manifolds from what I've seen, but since information is a lot more scarce on the 102, some may think that installation is just as simple as a 90/92, when it is in fact not.
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I was just looking to get a 102 fast. I remembered they were $980-$1050 when they came out. newera has them for $819 right now
http://www.neweraperformanceparts.co...mart&Itemid=54