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Old 02-13-2012, 08:33 PM
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That is a very impressive gain for just and intake mani. Very good to see the results and looks like its gaining power everywhere. Looks like picking up a used fast intake would most certainly b worth the money.
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If this was a GTO or a C5 where the intakes are easier to get too I would entertain someone sending me another type of intake to try just for comparison sake. But the pain in the butt it is to pull this intake off, it wont be coming off again until I do some TEA CNC 799 heads.

I will be doing some ARH 1-7/8 headers with ARH Y-pipe to compare to the Pacesetter 1-3/4 and TSP ORY thats on it now.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
If his results are correct he just got gains similar to adding ported heads with much less work. While not topping the bang/buck chart, it wasn't a bad investment for his car.

Heads generally run ~$1000, plus gaskets, bolts, fluids, etc. 35rwhp is significant.
Price the intake, matching TB, and the billet rails AND the adapter needed to run stock lines then get back to us. Add in the FTP 100 lid and TSP MAF and you're at 2Gs. Not a cheap mod to do correctly.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Price the intake, matching TB, and the billet rails AND the adapter needed to run stock lines then get back to us. Add in the FTP 100 lid and TSP MAF and you're at 2Gs. Not a cheap mod to do correctly.
This. Then possibly add injectors into the mix as well and then more tuning. It is not as easy as it looks.
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Very impressive gains, your really making me want to do this to mine. Damn 1K intakes lol Curious to see the slips to back it as well.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Price the intake, matching TB, and the billet rails AND the adapter needed to run stock lines then get back to us. Add in the FTP 100 lid and TSP MAF and you're at 2Gs. Not a cheap mod to do correctly.
Didn't mean to imply it was cheap. It's not. But to me it is not as simple as calling it a $2000 mod either.

But it isn't out of the ballpark either, especially if you factor in labor (either paid for or personal time spent). I recently did a head swap and it was a lot of work with hidden costs to be accounted for. The manifold swap can be done in a few hours.

Also depends on if parts are purchased new or used. I almost never buy new on non-wear/low chance of failure items.

Injectors will need to be purchased at pretty much any HP point past mild cam only, so I don't think those should be a chalk mark against the swap. A tune is needed for any major mod as well.

You also get to sell stock parts to regain some funds. A ls6 intake is worth $350 easy. Rails, injectors, lid, maf should get another $200 or so.

If the OP puts on better flowing heads, he would benefit more from this previous mod as well.
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Originally Posted by JRENIGAR
What would this mod be worth with 9lbs of boost knocking at the door???
Here are some boosted LSXR/T articles I have found. The boosted Trailblaser SS gained 50rwhp with one.

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Here are the articles Ive seen;

LSXRT on boosted Trailblazer SS (+50rwhp)
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ade/index.html

LSXR 4.8L, 21psi (1200hp)
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/

LSXR Z06 (21psi 8 second car)
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...z06/index.html
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I only gained 13whp same time back to back with a FAST over a LS6 on my car

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...vs-fast92.html
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You used a Fast92 not the newer 102...
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That's definitely a pretty healthy chunk of power you picked up. This thread pretty much invalidates all of those claims some people make about the FAST 102 not doing much on a mildly modded stock cube application. It's an expensive piece, but it's worth it IMO, especially if you plan to modify the car much heavier in the future, that's probably when it will REALLY shine.
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Originally Posted by studderin
I only gained 13whp same time back to back with a FAST over a LS6 on my car

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...vs-fast92.html
13whp is 16fwhp, you have extreme expectations. 13hp is a lot for something you simply bolted on and was probably only $400 once you sold your intake.......
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Wow nice results!
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Yes the swap is quite expensive but luckily I've collected a bunch of misc fittings, braided line and the other stuff from other builds before that made it cheap this go around. All I had to purchase was the intake cause the rails, TB, fittings, hose, adapter, 60# injectors I had sitting on the shelf.

I know 60#er's are WAY over kill but my 35.5lb Flex Fuel injectors I had planned on using were stopped up.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Price the intake, matching TB, and the billet rails AND the adapter needed to run stock lines then get back to us. Add in the FTP 100 lid and TSP MAF and you're at 2Gs. Not a cheap mod to do correctly.
The words of someone who doesnt know..One day you will jump on the 102 bandwagon and see for yourself the swap is worth every penny.
You gain power everywhere.
What intake are you running? The 102s aren't that expensive to do..
Cost of intake is 812 shipped brand new(if you know where to look)
Add a 102 TB, and LS2 fuel rails.. Thats it. You dont need to run the billet FAST fuel rails AND the adapter..The LS2 fuel rails connect right onto the stock fuel line.
Go to home depot and spend $1 on shims, and your all set.
TSP 100MM MAF not needed, and not recommended. SD tune for the win.

I bet you where one of those guys that used to say that a 102MM intake is too big for a stock CI motor .
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I agre with jimmy. I was in Memphis last year and I got the chance to tour Comp cams facility. I also got to talk to the guy who engineered the 102. He said that the rumor bout the 102 being to big or a stock ci motor was ridiculous. He said you could put a 12 inch opening on the front it wouldn't matter what mattered was the runners shape and engineering. That was the coolest tour I've ever been on. I would recommend if you were in the area to go check it out.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy P
The words of someone who doesnt know..One day you will jump on the 102 bandwagon and see for yourself the swap is worth every penny.
You gain power everywhere.
What intake are you running? The 102s aren't that expensive to do..
Cost of intake is 812 shipped brand new(if you know where to look)
Add a 102 TB, and LS2 fuel rails.. Thats it. You dont need to run the billet FAST fuel rails AND the adapter..The LS2 fuel rails connect right onto the stock fuel line.
Go to home depot and spend $1 on shims, and your all set.
TSP 100MM MAF not needed, and not recommended. SD tune for the win.

I bet you where one of those guys that used to say that a 102MM intake is too big for a stock CI motor .
Maybe somebody doesn't want to run SD tune and Home Depot shims....Bandwagons, 102mm is too big...Stop assuming ****, it makes you look stupid.

The FAST 102 is the superior intake over previous Fast manifolds from what I've seen, but since information is a lot more scarce on the 102, some may think that installation is just as simple as a 90/92, when it is in fact not.
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
13whp is 16fwhp, you have extreme expectations. 13hp is a lot for something you simply bolted on and was probably only $400 once you sold your intake.......
Just said my facts. My 13whp is 13whp, and a LOT less then 31whp the OP got. I spend about $2,250 in intakes testing btw, it had nothing to do with the resale money.
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OP, how did the ebay Godspeed throttle body work out for you?
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where can i get one for 812
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
13whp is 16fwhp, you have extreme expectations. 13hp is a lot for something you simply bolted on and was probably only $400 once you sold your intake.......
It looks like he had a stock TB too, I had a really nice ported one for new era.I forgot about that Thats normally a 5-7hp on a stock car, I think mike told me the most he's seen up to a few years, was 12hp on a cam car. I bet that was giving me 10whp over a unported stock TB. My best ET was 11.1 with the LS6/ported stock TB, MPH 125 I think a few times. That 30whp gain makes more sence now

I was just looking to get a 102 fast. I remembered they were $980-$1050 when they came out. newera has them for $819 right now
http://www.neweraperformanceparts.co...mart&Itemid=54


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