CS2 Sasuke XD

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Give Ford credit where it's due. The mustang is something Ford, Ford racing, (the gt500) Shelby, all made on their own. From the design, chassis and motor if I am not mistake, (I could be) But the new Camaro is a Holden Ute/Commodore platform with a new body, nothing original for the car that really makes it a Camaro but the body design. Even the Holdens had LSX power house. But Ford is doing amazing things in every catagory they can off of a clean slate with the Mustangs. Truely a nice car, the GT500. One thing I can say though. For the Price, I'd rather stick with my 3k firebird and build the motor for the fraction of that cost and just have fun in it.

Higgs Boson

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gm has owned Holden since the 1930s. the Holden commodore platform has been a gm platform all along.

TORK?

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We've been using the 15% driveline loss equation for years and years. Is there a possibility they are making the transmission, driveshaft, rearend more efficient?

The new GT500 has a carbon fiber driveshaft. That adds to the lack of drivetrain loss at least a little bit.

Higgs Boson

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only one way to tell. chassis dyno, pull the motor, engine dyno - all within a couple hours. then you will know for sure. it can be done with a competent team with specific roles.

mike c.

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I like the look of the gt500 alot. 609hp is nice,but the car is so heavy. I'm about 60hp less n/a but much lighter by far. My boys dad has a new gt500 and we think it a matter of time before the old man mods her.

Mike@Diablosport

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We're making some good progress on the pulley tune, heres a little teaser...

703 ft/lbs, at 2840 RPM.

Got torque?

Mike@Diablosport

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Car left today, making 680 rwhp/712 ft/lbs....and there is still a little more in it.

The stock TB has become a restriction, so thats next in an effort to get up past 700 rwhp

GMRL

Those things are pushing 15 psi stock with the 2300 right?
How far do you think you can push it before it starts to loose efficiency?

Mike@Diablosport

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No....stock it makes about 10 psi
With just some tuning we saw a slight boost increase by keeping the bypass stuff shut down, which accounts for some of the massive gains we saw in the tune. With the pulley this car is at about 15-16 psi now.

Thanks

GMRL

Really? I just read on like 10 different sites, and they all say 15?

Mike@Diablosport

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This was according to our tuner and based on what he saw in the logs

I looked and the internet told me 12, 13, and 15 psi....don't mater whats on the web though, all that really counts is how much pressure actually builds in the manifold.

LilJayV10

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I rode in in one of these last week. These things are monsters. Couldn't imagine one with some tuning. My only complaint about the car was the ridiculous amount of road noise in the car. I don't know if its the tires or what. Sick car none the less. The wife wants one as do I but I can't swing the 60k price tag right now.

Robert@G-Force

The one we just finished made just under 15 psi stock.

Stang2Goat

It's been trapping 128.xx mph bone-stock with a 3850# race weight, not including driver. Bitch about ET all you like...a $500 pair of 275 MT ET DRs or bias plies would fix that. Trapping 128 at that fat weight takes some power and engineering my friends...

600whp is right about there.

Check my sources if you like - Car & Driver, along with every other car mag (it seems) just did shootouts and comparos between the 2013 Shelb and the ZL1 Camaro. Results may surprise you, regardless of which American car flag you salute...

4U2BNVS

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Yea the zl1 was faster on a road course and the gt500 was quicker in the quarter. They need a wider tire on the gt500. Both cars are nice though.

zippy

For those who haven't done homework on these, the problem with them getting down the track isn't just the tires, it's the gearing. You don't even get into 4th until about 135 mph. Running a car that heavy and not even being able to run out 3rd gear certainly isn't the way to go for performance. With bolt on's and a 4.10 gear (on the stock tire size that would put it at 6900rpm at 140mph) I expect 9's should be a common thing for them. Form GM to put the TVS1900 on the ZL1 is just plain stupid and they know it. There is a reason the ZR1 gets the correct blower size for the motor size. The ZL1 has independent rear suspension which has gotten it better press, but we all know that the boss is just plain faster. The ZL1 just needs to get the LS9 in a wet sump form and with a better baffled pan.

BTW, specs on the GT500

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2013_GT500_Specs.pdf