Stock internal LS1 N/A H.P. record breaker?
06-06-2012, 01:34 PM
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I've had a few customers make pulls on my Dyno that reported similar numbers to other DynoJets in FL. But nothing or orchestrated back to back. They were all done on different days, weather conditions, etc.
A lot of shops tend to use the STD correction factor too. Which you can see by post #1 reads a bit higher than the SAE factor. I feel that SAE numbers are more realistic because of how the formula works, so I usually only post graphs numbers with that factor.
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06-06-2012, 09:08 PM
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As posted the comparison car was my old SS. ARH 1 7/8ths headers, ARH ORY, SLP PowerFlo, MTI Lid, 4L60e, and a Summit SFI flex plate due to the stock one breaking from the over torque issues from factory. The car was still on a factory tune minus torque management from what J-tuneD saw. Stock converter, and stock 3.23's as confirmed by me.
Here is our race before he went with the Vic Jr. and new TB. I believe his other mods stayed. (20 rolls, first one he spun, 2nd he didn't and we were door to door with him getting me by a whole fender.)
Here is our race before he went with the Vic Jr. and new TB. I believe his other mods stayed. (20 rolls, first one he spun, 2nd he didn't and we were door to door with him getting me by a whole fender.)
06-07-2012, 12:09 PM
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06-07-2012, 12:12 PM
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i am aware of what stock internal means. however, i highly doubt he is using stock valvespings and pushrods. if he is...i wouldn't say it's the best choice for the car, esp @ 6400 rpm. i'd say the majority of the power appears to be coming from the fuel.
06-07-2012, 12:13 PM
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No port matching. And yes it's speed density tuned.
Yes the Vic jr and 4150 is where the power comes from. It also has a lot to do with the tune. J-tuneD did work on the tune.
06-07-2012, 12:55 PM
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I know power is dependant on getting the engine to breathe but I am having a hard time believing almost 80 horsepower is gained with just an intake manifold swap. Color me skeptical on this deal.
06-07-2012, 01:14 PM
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Agreed!! However, I have a feeling he wont be doing too many all motor passes, lol. He bought that manifold purely for the spray bar nitrous setup.
Either way, at 3100lbs it outta move! Did he mention the A/C still works?
I have found multiple bolt-on cars with the same peak torque and just slightly less top end power. The comparison car I posted had the factory LS6 intake and only made 23 less hp on gasoline.. This car has every power adding bolt-on you can do aside from an electric water pump (running the stock one). Look at that comparison graph and tell me your still skeptical.
Either way, at 3100lbs it outta move! Did he mention the A/C still works?
I have found multiple bolt-on cars with the same peak torque and just slightly less top end power. The comparison car I posted had the factory LS6 intake and only made 23 less hp on gasoline.. This car has every power adding bolt-on you can do aside from an electric water pump (running the stock one). Look at that comparison graph and tell me your still skeptical.
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06-07-2012, 02:00 PM
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Not doubting you but I know even with my SS it was a freak, I kept track of every (bolt on change) and major with dynos.
2001 Camaro SS (Single Owner, I had it made for me) SLP #1331.
SLP Airbox, K&N, SLP 85MM MAF
RWHP 313.8, RWTQ 331.1 (engine 355+ depending on your choice of dtl)
Dyno After Y-pipes, MAFT, and Free RAM Air
RWHP 320.4, RWTQ 340.5
Added ASP Underdrive(crank) Pulley and ASP Alternator Pulley
RWHP 329.0, RWTQ = 344.5
FLP Long Tube Headers
RWHP 337.6 : RWTQ 345.3
TR 224 Cam w/ REV Valvetrain ( before ls1edit tuning )
RWHP 368.82 : RWTQ 353.33
Tuned - 379rwhp
TR 232/235 cam - TFS 220Ci heads - Meizer Electri water pump.
437 rwhp 396 rwtq
And the latest
102 LSXr Intake/102 TB/36lb injectors/ls2 fuel rails/ Vengeance tuning
459 rwhp /405 rwtq (still have some personal tuning to squeek out a little more)
2001 Camaro SS (Single Owner, I had it made for me) SLP #1331.
SLP Airbox, K&N, SLP 85MM MAF
RWHP 313.8, RWTQ 331.1 (engine 355+ depending on your choice of dtl)
Dyno After Y-pipes, MAFT, and Free RAM Air
RWHP 320.4, RWTQ 340.5
Added ASP Underdrive(crank) Pulley and ASP Alternator Pulley
RWHP 329.0, RWTQ = 344.5
FLP Long Tube Headers
RWHP 337.6 : RWTQ 345.3
TR 224 Cam w/ REV Valvetrain ( before ls1edit tuning )
RWHP 368.82 : RWTQ 353.33
Tuned - 379rwhp
TR 232/235 cam - TFS 220Ci heads - Meizer Electri water pump.
437 rwhp 396 rwtq
And the latest
102 LSXr Intake/102 TB/36lb injectors/ls2 fuel rails/ Vengeance tuning
459 rwhp /405 rwtq (still have some personal tuning to squeek out a little more)
No one really cares about bolt-on LS1 power anymore. Good luck finding #s. The fastest/big hp # guys usually never post up anyways when it comes to things like these. Friend of mine went 11.0@119 on stock internals but never posted up here...
06-07-2012, 02:34 PM
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There is absolutely nothing "freak" about your car's #s. Sorry to burst your bubble.
No one really cares about bolt-on LS1 power anymore.LOL!!! Excuse me for being curious then. Good luck finding #s.Thanks The fastest/big hp # guys usually never post up anyways when it comes to things like these.Riiiigggghhhhtttt. LS1tech is just full of us slow cars who actually care to find out new things about cars and new ways to produce power. Guess they just have it all figured out. Hell, in 20 years they will probably still be running the same ole setup because its so perfect and there is no improvements out for our cars..... Right? SO WRONG. Friend of mine went 11.0@119 on stock internals but never posted up here...I have a friend whos brothers mothers sisters 2nd cousin that went 10.9 at 121 on stock internals but you probably dont know him
No one really cares about bolt-on LS1 power anymore.LOL!!! Excuse me for being curious then. Good luck finding #s.Thanks The fastest/big hp # guys usually never post up anyways when it comes to things like these.Riiiigggghhhhtttt. LS1tech is just full of us slow cars who actually care to find out new things about cars and new ways to produce power. Guess they just have it all figured out. Hell, in 20 years they will probably still be running the same ole setup because its so perfect and there is no improvements out for our cars..... Right? SO WRONG. Friend of mine went 11.0@119 on stock internals but never posted up here...I have a friend whos brothers mothers sisters 2nd cousin that went 10.9 at 121 on stock internals but you probably dont know him
06-07-2012, 10:50 PM
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i think it's kind of silly to argue dyno sheets. the track is the tell-all. at the very least, the car cannot forge a powercurve. i think that is the most impressive thing. look at the tq curve...lt1 what? the power does seem to carry far too well past 6k to be on the stock springs, let alone a stock cam. but who am i to argue, i am not there to see the car or the parts inside of it.
good work using simple parts and getting results. go make some passes and let us know what it traps. i feel it should mph better than the numbers indicate given the curve. i've wanted to run an ls6 cam, vic jr, and e85 for years. this year i finally have the opportunity to do something so we shall see.
OP: i am very intersted in your setup and track results. good luck.
good work using simple parts and getting results. go make some passes and let us know what it traps. i feel it should mph better than the numbers indicate given the curve. i've wanted to run an ls6 cam, vic jr, and e85 for years. this year i finally have the opportunity to do something so we shall see.
OP: i am very intersted in your setup and track results. good luck.