T-ReX = 383 RWHP, 361 RWTQ -- What's Wrong?
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Originally Posted by jerflash
what lifters and springs did you use with theis cam?
Originally Posted by Brian2001SS
Josh, it could be the Dyno. Come down to Atlanta and run it at Dyno Lab and compare results. You could be supprised at the difference.
Originally Posted by ta12sec
go drve it put it in 3rd at about 30 and put it on the wood, does the tach jump up and the car not move? How many miles are on it, did you have the car tuned? what kid of gas were you running. how olds your fuel filter, plugs, wires air filter got a plastic bag in it?
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Like Josh said he started off with 365rwhp (i think, correct me if i'm wrong) and we gave it more fuel and a little more timing and got him to 379rwhp then put on a ported MAF that I had laying around, copied the MAF table I had for it into his tune and that got him to 383rwhp. After that the car just seemed to not do much more. It could have used a little more fuel on the bottom end which we're gonna fix soon but that shouldn't affect his top end. Also for those thinking the dyno is low it's possible but keep in mind my H/C A4 car put down basically 400/415 30 minutes before we ran his car on the same dyno which seems right in line for an A4.
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ok josh, a few things that are killing you,
#1 the cats. they are eating up a good bit.
#2 i had a ported throttle body.
#3 the car gained 10rwhp with true duals. the cam hates to be choaked
#4 you aren't running optimal springs. the cranes carry out the best, even better than the comps which cost more. not to sure about the patriots, but they dyno graph dont carry out to well so im not liking them already.
#5 i make peak torque at 4700-4800rpms. and hp peaks at 7,000
hope this helps.
i would say you have at least 15rwhp or better going to a true dual with no cats
#1 the cats. they are eating up a good bit.
#2 i had a ported throttle body.
#3 the car gained 10rwhp with true duals. the cam hates to be choaked
#4 you aren't running optimal springs. the cranes carry out the best, even better than the comps which cost more. not to sure about the patriots, but they dyno graph dont carry out to well so im not liking them already.
#5 i make peak torque at 4700-4800rpms. and hp peaks at 7,000
hope this helps.
i would say you have at least 15rwhp or better going to a true dual with no cats
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Do not put these cams in cars with cats, and restrictive exhausts. Easy 25-30 hp threw a cutout and lose the cats. Been there done that wayy before the Trex. cam only car went from 395 to 420 doing that. Way to much exhaust restriction i think, probably why the torque curve stopped climbing, its choking it
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Do not put these cams in cars with cats, and restrictive exhausts. Easy 25-30 hp threw a cutout and lose the cats. Been there done that wayy before the Trex. cam only car went from 395 to 420 doing that. Way to much exhaust restriction i think, probably why the torque curve stopped climbing, its choking it
Well, maybe it's time I make the move to true duals.
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Originally Posted by Josh
So you guys really think the exhuast is causing the problem? I figured I may be losing 10 RWHP--15 tops--since the LM is about as free flowing as they come.
Well, maybe it's time I make the move to true duals.
Thanks,
Josh
Well, maybe it's time I make the move to true duals.
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Josh
So you guys really think the exhuast is causing the problem? I figured I may be losing 10 RWHP--15 tops--since the LM is about as free flowing as they come.
Well, maybe it's time I make the move to true duals.
Thanks,
Josh
Well, maybe it's time I make the move to true duals.
Thanks,
Josh
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
and I think really 440+ is attainable with good heads..
that cam is too big for stock heads...the stock heads will not support enough air to get real power out of it...
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I was just thinking about the cam specs issue....
havent most people had to put notches in their pistons or fly cut for the t-rex??
Its like a .614 lift.... If you didnt have to do that...you might have not gotten a t-rex in the box it came in...and stock heads and a choking exhaust will rob you of 20+ hp on that cam...
that cam is so big it needs a lot of air.... have you done any intake porting...MAF/TB free ram air mod...you could easily gain 15-20 hp there if you havent done any of that
really the combo of intake and exhaust shouldl get you around the average #'s for the t-rex
havent most people had to put notches in their pistons or fly cut for the t-rex??
Its like a .614 lift.... If you didnt have to do that...you might have not gotten a t-rex in the box it came in...and stock heads and a choking exhaust will rob you of 20+ hp on that cam...
that cam is so big it needs a lot of air.... have you done any intake porting...MAF/TB free ram air mod...you could easily gain 15-20 hp there if you havent done any of that
really the combo of intake and exhaust shouldl get you around the average #'s for the t-rex
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
I was just thinking about the cam specs issue....
havent most people had to put notches in their pistons or fly cut for the t-rex??
Its like a .614 lift.... If you didnt have to do that...you might have not gotten a t-rex in the box it came in...and stock heads and a choking exhaust will rob you of 20+ hp on that cam...
that cam is so big it needs a lot of air.... have you done any intake porting...MAF/TB free ram air mod...you could easily gain 15-20 hp there if you havent done any of that
really the combo of intake and exhaust shouldl get you around the average #'s for the t-rex
havent most people had to put notches in their pistons or fly cut for the t-rex??
Its like a .614 lift.... If you didnt have to do that...you might have not gotten a t-rex in the box it came in...and stock heads and a choking exhaust will rob you of 20+ hp on that cam...
that cam is so big it needs a lot of air.... have you done any intake porting...MAF/TB free ram air mod...you could easily gain 15-20 hp there if you havent done any of that
really the combo of intake and exhaust shouldl get you around the average #'s for the t-rex
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
I was just thinking about the cam specs issue....
havent most people had to put notches in their pistons or fly cut for the t-rex??
Its like a .614 lift.... If you didnt have to do that...you might have not gotten a t-rex in the box it came in...and stock heads and a choking exhaust will rob you of 20+ hp on that cam...
that cam is so big it needs a lot of air.... have you done any intake porting...MAF/TB free ram air mod...you could easily gain 15-20 hp there if you havent done any of that
really the combo of intake and exhaust shouldl get you around the average #'s for the t-rex
havent most people had to put notches in their pistons or fly cut for the t-rex??
Its like a .614 lift.... If you didnt have to do that...you might have not gotten a t-rex in the box it came in...and stock heads and a choking exhaust will rob you of 20+ hp on that cam...
that cam is so big it needs a lot of air.... have you done any intake porting...MAF/TB free ram air mod...you could easily gain 15-20 hp there if you havent done any of that
really the combo of intake and exhaust shouldl get you around the average #'s for the t-rex
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Josh, this cam really needs a very free flowing exhaust setup. We finished up a TReX install on a customer's car last week. It pulled a disappointing 386rwhp (through an A4, Yank 4400, 3:73s). The had FLPs w/ cats and a wide-open Borla. By simply removing the cats and y-pipe and running the off-road pipe extensions, the car pulled 416rwhp. This was with the stock crank pulley.
I would also pull the car to atleast 6600 on the dyno. You are leaving a few hp on the table there.
Good luck with your setup. If you have any other questions/concerns, send me a PM or email.
Jason
I would also pull the car to atleast 6600 on the dyno. You are leaving a few hp on the table there.
Good luck with your setup. If you have any other questions/concerns, send me a PM or email.
Jason
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Originally Posted by Jason99T/A
Josh, this cam really needs a very free flowing exhaust setup. We finished up a TReX install on a customer's car last week. It pulled a disappointing 386rwhp (through an A4, Yank 4400, 3:73s). The had FLPs w/ cats and a wide-open Borla. By simply removing the cats and y-pipe and running the off-road pipe extensions, the car pulled 416rwhp. This was with the stock crank pulley.
I would also pull the car to atleast 6600 on the dyno. You are leaving a few hp on the table there.
Good luck with your setup. If you have any other questions/concerns, send me a PM or email.
Jason
I would also pull the car to atleast 6600 on the dyno. You are leaving a few hp on the table there.
Good luck with your setup. If you have any other questions/concerns, send me a PM or email.
Jason
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
no one has flycut for this cam including me
I'm pretty sure I have to cut mine. I have a Rollmaster adjustable timing set on the way from TSP. And since I don't know how to degree in a cam, I'm gonna have a local shop do it for me. BTW, the dot to dot thing did not work for my T-ReX cam. The broken valve was my fuckup for not being gentle enough.
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