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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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I also think it's silly that you believe josh would put the all pros and other parts on a short block with a hurt bottom end just to have to tear it apart again. That's just foolish thinking on your part.


Edit: josh never made power up to 7500 rpm with his new finished build yes he made 700 rwhp but he only made that at 6930 rpm. Far cry from 7500 as you stated. I dont think he ever made power over 7k. Dont be spewing lies this makes your other statements look false too. Post 746 on his thread for proof.

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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by clint195
I also think it's silly that you believe josh would put the all pros and other parts on a short block with a hurt bottom end just to have to tear it apart again. That's just foolish thinking on your part.
The bottom end wasn't touched after the Mamo gear was removed.
The oil pressure issue was noticed after that....
What does this mean?

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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 11:09 AM
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This will be my last post.
You don't seem to get things.
Just because it was making peak power at 6930 does not mean it was being shifted there!
It was being shifted at least 500rpm higher than peak which is what you do when racing.
Read the damn thread properly!

You need to do some research yourself with an open mind and put things together properly without any other influence.
Good luck to you.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
This will be my last post.
You don't seem to get things.
Just because it was making peak power at 6930 does not mean it was being shifted there!
It was being shifted at least 500rpm higher than peak which is what you do when racing.
Read the damn thread properly!

You need to do some research yourself with an open mind and put things together properly without any other influence.
Good luck to you.

I read it perfectly fine I guess its how a person interprets a post.

I did perfect research and it looks like I made the most power ever at a higher rpm. It's just too bad you're still hung up on my 6400 dyno pull. I can assure you my Tuner looked everything over he even stated that was very low for a solid roller.

As for Josh's build the way I look at that is one thing we know for 100% sure was the valve seats were hammered he posted that, 2 the springs were more than likely fatigued that he never heard results on so we will never know and I'm pretty sure that could have had an effect on the dyno maybe the waveness you are seeing. Such *** the valvetrain being unstable. You were never there to witness it first had you are only making an assumption you dont even know if he had the all pro set up put back together right. Again all assumptions
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 09:53 PM
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The bearing issues Josh suffered were due to the pistons contacting the bottom of the Trickflow heads.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
The bearing issues Josh suffered were due to the pistons contacting the bottom of the Trickflow heads.
How on earth would the pistons contact the head?
You would think the valves and pistons would touch.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
How on earth would the pistons contact the head?
You would think the valves and pistons would touch.
If the piston is too far out of the hole, and the gasket too thin.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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If the piston is too far out of the hole, and the gasket too thin.
So does that mean it was an install error?

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Originally Posted by bortous
So does that mean it was an install error?
The longblock was setup without enough piston to head clearance. Tight quench is great until you go just a hair too close and then you're smacking the head. I've seen engines where the pistons are just kissing the head and they run fantastic. If you ran it 10-20 degrees colder it probably would've cracked the ringlands. Too tight for anything but a racecar. Quench is something that is sort of trial by error to know how close you can make it. The larger the bore typically the more quench you need because the piston rock is greater.

The valves have valve pockets. You can have miles of PTV clearance and negative piston to head clearance.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 08:07 PM
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Is this Josh dude your bum chum? I couldnt understand how his build went from great to ***** in 2 seconds flat. I do know theres 2 sides to a story . Theres something more personal goin on in that josh thread and ive heard whispers from the other party
I cant understand you goin off "what Josh says" is law. You say the YT's are crap but never had a problem. No back to back comparisons. Your valve springs are 4yrs old and your drop in power over 4 yrs is pure n simple due to lack of maintenance You made the extra power from the intake and if you didnt have that hump at the very end of the dyno run your max power rpm would be the same. Im not sticking up for the YT's, for me it comes down to your personal experience, 4 yrs and "ive never had an issue but there crap" statement, just dont understand how you could say tht in light of your personal experience with them
The big concern is how nothings been mentioned about your erl short block. Every erl build around the same time yours was built ended up causing issues and its a well known fact Erl dropped the ball big time at the end of their foray into ls builds.
Would have been heaps better just knowing what your personal experience with your build was rather than hearing bout ya bum chum Josh's gospel and other hearsay.
You have a good build there enjoy
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 08:51 AM
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What he said above..
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Old Oct 15, 2020 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mickyinks
Is this Josh dude your bum chum? I couldnt understand how his build went from great to ***** in 2 seconds flat. I do know theres 2 sides to a story . Theres something more personal goin on in that josh thread and ive heard whispers from the other party
I cant understand you goin off "what Josh says" is law. You say the YT's are crap but never had a problem. No back to back comparisons. Your valve springs are 4yrs old and your drop in power over 4 yrs is pure n simple due to lack of maintenance You made the extra power from the intake and if you didnt have that hump at the very end of the dyno run your max power rpm would be the same. Im not sticking up for the YT's, for me it comes down to your personal experience, 4 yrs and "ive never had an issue but there crap" statement, just dont understand how you could say tht in light of your personal experience with them
The big concern is how nothings been mentioned about your erl short block. Every erl build around the same time yours was built ended up causing issues and its a well known fact Erl dropped the ball big time at the end of their foray into ls builds.
Would have been heaps better just knowing what your personal experience with your build was rather than hearing bout ya bum chum Josh's gospel and other hearsay.
You have a good build there enjoy
I brought josh up acouple times the other guy insisted on bringing him back into the thread. Either way you toss the dice I'm completely happy with the build and I've ran the build fairly hard. I am familiar with erl's problems a local shop bought lots of there blocks and had issues with them but also had lots f luck with the. I'm fortunate that mine is still going so I see no reason to mention anything about the block itself.


You cant really blame the springs on the pull to 6400 rpm because they were brand new at the time clearly that went right over your head. I still find it odd no one in this thread can explain the 6400 pull right after the car was done the first time. I guess well just blame the tuner and call it a day. Lol
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