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Old 02-28-2017, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the motor 4.185 bore x 4.000 crank ?
​​​​​Just wondering cause it's more than one way to come up with 440 cubic inches....
That's the bore and stroke of this build and IMO the most desirable way to come up with 440 cubes of displacement!



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Great work Tony!

What was the LSA on the camshaft.

I think the second picture down is of a different motor. The valley looks different & it has Trick Flow heads. Maybe the same rockers?
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Great work Tony!

What was the LSA on the camshaft.

I think the second picture down is of a different motor. The valley looks different & it has Trick Flow heads. Maybe the same rockers?
114 + 3

Same motor (good scope though!)....long story short is I removed the heads to have the opportunity to engrave the end pads with my logo. I had just finished working out all the details with the logo engraving and these heads and about a dozen others were part of the first wave of castings with my new end pad engraving complete with the MMS 265 insignia for easy identification.

Not sure if you can see it in the pictures but the machined finish on the end pad is much higher quality than any production machining environment....it took awhile to dial everything in but the finished results made it all worthwhile and it looked so good I had to include that feature on this engine build!! (figure it was worth about 5 HP.....LOL)



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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Why such a large split on the cam ?
Yes I understand it's a rectangle port headed motor. I could understand if the heads didn't flow that well in the exhaust department but since it's a aftermarket head vs a stock LS7 head I'm kinda scratching my head unless the op plan on spraying a shot of nitrous down the road. Here lately I been seeing LS3/LS7 aftermarket heads make great power without so much split such as navyblue 396ci.....
Cam looks perfect to me for this build.

Excellent results Mr. Mamo!!!
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Originally Posted by Martin Smallwood
Cam looks perfect to me for this build.

Excellent results Mr. Mamo!!!
Thanks Martin....I was certainly pleased with it.

No holes in the power and torque curve thats for sure!!

Appreciate you popping in here

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Originally Posted by Double06
Tony is the problem here also just the LS block itself not having enough bore to accommodate the larger exhaust valve while keeping a big intake valve. Sort of the max bores you see here are in the 4.155 and 4.185 while on your typical (not 396 bb chevy) the bore is 4.25 inches to start which most guys bored out to 4.28 / 4.31 and of course the bowtie block where the party starts with a 4.5 inch bore. So I guess what we need here is a 1.7 or larger exhaust valve when getting to these bigger cid and hp builds if we want to keep the exhaust duration down. Going with too big a valve I guess you could get some shrouding from the bore itself. I know on the BBC going to the 4.5 inch bore is a huge plus as it really unshrouds the valves in the bore. Funny the GM stage 3 cam is 233 /276 at .050 duration I guess GM was aware of the exhaust issue there.
There's plenty of room in a 4.185" bore for a 2.20"/1.60" valve combo, but GM did crowd the valves over towards the exhaust valve. That's pretty much been the evolution of inline valve race heads, though. They sacrifice the exhaust for a better intake.

The way I look at it is that the exhaust numbers aren't that bad, it's that the intake numbers are that good. Is a 245 duration intake lobe typical of a 440ci engine that peaks at over 6500 RPM? I don't think so. The LS7 intake port is one of the best OEM intake ports the hot rod gods have ever blessed us with. Because of that, we can shorten the intake duration to produce better idle and driveability characteristics, while still maintaining excellent power and that's how we are getting these big splits in duration.
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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo
Thanks Martin....I was certainly pleased with it.

No holes in the power and torque curve thats for sure!!

Appreciate you popping in here

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Not a problem at all Sir, and I agree 100% on the I/E relationship you mentioned in previous post.
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How many lbs injectors on the 440ci ?
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
How many lbs injectors on the 440ci ?
60 lbs.



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