PP LS6 Style Heads with G5X3 375HP 350TQ Unlocked
06-27-2004, 05:39 PM
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I'm going to assume unlocked, I didn't do anything to lock up the converter. Not used to dynoing an A4 so I wasn't sure what to do to lock it up so I just left it as is.
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06-27-2004, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by slyws6
go to www.cardomain.com/id/slow_velocity page 10 has 2 older pics of the graph. The mods were as follows:
PP Stage 3 LS6 Heads
230/236 .590/.578 114lsa +2 cam
Yella Terra 1.7 Rockers, 7.4 Hardened Pushrods, Comp OEM Lifters
Pacesetter Uncoated Headers, Custom 3in True Duals all the way out the back
Ported LS6 intake, Ported TB, Ported MAF(not used for dyno), ASP Pulley, SLP Lid
Ported/Polished LS6 oil pump, Rollmaster double roller
...and more can't remember the rest
Other things that could affect a dyno:
Chrome Y2K Vette wheels (heavy)
Yank SS4000 Converter
3.73 Gears
Did NOT do any dyno tricks, dyno'ed it the way it is driven on the street, no shortbelt, lid stayed on with the K&N in place, tire pressure at 35psi lol none of that crap.
-Sly
PP Stage 3 LS6 Heads
230/236 .590/.578 114lsa +2 cam
Yella Terra 1.7 Rockers, 7.4 Hardened Pushrods, Comp OEM Lifters
Pacesetter Uncoated Headers, Custom 3in True Duals all the way out the back
Ported LS6 intake, Ported TB, Ported MAF(not used for dyno), ASP Pulley, SLP Lid
Ported/Polished LS6 oil pump, Rollmaster double roller
...and more can't remember the rest
Other things that could affect a dyno:
Chrome Y2K Vette wheels (heavy)
Yank SS4000 Converter
3.73 Gears
Did NOT do any dyno tricks, dyno'ed it the way it is driven on the street, no shortbelt, lid stayed on with the K&N in place, tire pressure at 35psi lol none of that crap.
-Sly
Those are pretty nice numbers sly
Our cams are pretty simular i have a 232/236 .575/.578 mti cam
I think dyno tricks are BS also. I always dyno the same way I drive it around daily.
06-27-2004, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by slyws6
I'm going to assume unlocked, I didn't do anything to lock up the converter. Not used to dynoing an A4 so I wasn't sure what to do to lock it up so I just left it as is.
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-Sly
After looking at your dynosheets you were definitly unlocked.
06-27-2004, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slyws6
what would the diff be locked?
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-Sly
but thats just a guess
lol
06-27-2004, 06:00 PM
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Lost 2 rods at the track, it's had a really loud knock on cold startups (not piston slap trust me) that I believe to be the cluprit that eventually just let go. Funny thing is it happened the day after I took it to the dyno.
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06-28-2004, 10:54 PM
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i have the same converter you do, and only lost 13 rwhp with it unlocked. unlocked i was 350rwhp, 385rwtq. locked it was 363 and 362. my cam is considerably smaller, and i don't have heads, pulley, ewp, or ls6 intake.
06-30-2004, 05:52 PM
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break the car in and take it to the track... don't listen to the internet bench racers. every combination is different... now if your running 118mph yes somehting is wrong.. don't get pissed yet and start thorwing stones... let the real numbers speak for themselves!!!
06-30-2004, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicago Z06
break the car in and take it to the track... don't listen to the internet bench racers. every combination is different... now if your running 118mph yes somehting is wrong.. don't get pissed yet and start thorwing stones... let the real numbers speak for themselves!!!
09-24-2004, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by maddboost
Ok well these numbers seem low to me heres a break down of what I have.
Patriot "LS6 Style Heads" 59cc
Speed Inc Built 348 with forged pistons and rods.
G5X3 on 114 LSA
LS6 Intake
LS1 Motorsports Lid
ASP Underdrive Pulley
Meziere Electric Water Pump
Hooker Long tubes with Off Road Y-pipe
Hooker Catback
10 bolt with 3:73 gear
FLP Level 4 4L60E with a Vig 3600 stall
Car made 375HP and 350TQ unlocked. Motor was assembled by Speed Inc and installed by them with the FLP trans and dyno tuned by Speed Inc. Now Tom the owner of the shop seems to think these numbers are right on par and that because the converter is so loose its eating up alot of power. I think they are low, especially seems to make really low torque. The car feels slow too. Any G5X3 A4 H/C owners how do your numbers compare to mine?
Patriot "LS6 Style Heads" 59cc
Speed Inc Built 348 with forged pistons and rods.
G5X3 on 114 LSA
LS6 Intake
LS1 Motorsports Lid
ASP Underdrive Pulley
Meziere Electric Water Pump
Hooker Long tubes with Off Road Y-pipe
Hooker Catback
10 bolt with 3:73 gear
FLP Level 4 4L60E with a Vig 3600 stall
Car made 375HP and 350TQ unlocked. Motor was assembled by Speed Inc and installed by them with the FLP trans and dyno tuned by Speed Inc. Now Tom the owner of the shop seems to think these numbers are right on par and that because the converter is so loose its eating up alot of power. I think they are low, especially seems to make really low torque. The car feels slow too. Any G5X3 A4 H/C owners how do your numbers compare to mine?
Do you know if the cam was degree'd?
09-24-2004, 05:01 PM
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Not to be a dick but those numbers suck...Have you been able to figure out your problem yet? What did it run at the track? I have the same mods as you. Here is my sheet.
09-24-2004, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6snake-eater
Not to be a dick but those numbers suck...Have you been able to figure out your problem yet? What did it run at the track? I have the same mods as you. Here is my sheet.
I can't find my SAE numbers but they were about 10 rwhp less!
cut out was open too. this was with et streets at 20 psi, and only 24* of timing, and tuned rich for nitrous. There was more left in here with a more aggressive tune. I've since switched to True Duals, and bumped timing up to 28*. We also swapped to a larger PYE 4200 convertor, as opposed to the 3600 that was used in that dyno. The car pulls like a raped ape. I'll be posting the numbers soon. I don't expect them to increas too much due to the new convertor, I think the timing and duals will just offeset the convertor. Good luck with your gremlin. I hope you get it figured out
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09-24-2004, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6snake-eater
Not to be a dick but those numbers suck...Have you been able to figure out your problem yet? What did it run at the track? I have the same mods as you. Here is my sheet.
09-24-2004, 05:10 PM
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I'm wondering if you're loosing power through the FLP tranny? We built our own, using all the same parts as the FLP level IV, and it has held up very well. I would seriously look into getting the cam re-degreed, and I would also like to see what your tune looks like. Something is way off. I would be pissed after spending that much money.
09-24-2004, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6snake-eater
I'm wondering if you're loosing power through the FLP tranny? We built our own, using all the same parts as the FLP level IV, and it has held up very well. I would seriously look into getting the cam re-degreed, and I would also like to see what your tune looks like. Something is way off. I would be pissed after spending that much money.
09-24-2004, 06:00 PM
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I was having the MAF issue too. You need to have you Max - Min MAF settings adjusted. change them too 75 and 65 respectively and change the MAF sesnor fail freq to 14477 if it isn't there already. I doubt very seriously that you need a new TB and new PCM. Who is doing your tuning?