I have never seen one.
Highest cam only A4 ever dynoed at TEA!!
Thats an eazy one JZ..
1st.The LS6 has better windage then an LS1 which = into HP.
2nd.The tuning in the 02 cars are the very best of all the yrs.
The 2 things combined give u about 7 to 10RW advantage over a 98,99 and 00.
1st.The LS6 has better windage then an LS1 which = into HP.
2nd.The tuning in the 02 cars are the very best of all the yrs.
The 2 things combined give u about 7 to 10RW advantage over a 98,99 and 00.
I am not comparing 97, 98, 99, 2000, or 2001 cars here.
First the comparision using the different years is way off because there are different heads used, different cam's, different exhaust manifolds and different intakes. Plus tuning, injectors, etc, etc, etc, as I am sure you know.
I am compairing LS6 Blocked 2002 car's to LS1 Blocked 2002 cars only. All other years dont count.
2001 would be a very close comparision, however you stated the 2002 has better tuning so that would factor the 01's out.
First the comparision using the different years is way off because there are different heads used, different cam's, different exhaust manifolds and different intakes. Plus tuning, injectors, etc, etc, etc, as I am sure you know.
I am compairing LS6 Blocked 2002 car's to LS1 Blocked 2002 cars only. All other years dont count.
2001 would be a very close comparision, however you stated the 2002 has better tuning so that would factor the 01's out.
If u new anything about windage u wouldnt be having this conversation.
This block is better,it promotes better windage and is worth about 7 to 10RW..
And u have to compare the different heads from 98 to 02
This all plays a part in why it'll make more power,U throw a 241 casting on a LS6 block with 02 programming and its worth more power over its LS1 counterpart or 98,99,00..
This block is better,it promotes better windage and is worth about 7 to 10RW..
And u have to compare the different heads from 98 to 02
This all plays a part in why it'll make more power,U throw a 241 casting on a LS6 block with 02 programming and its worth more power over its LS1 counterpart or 98,99,00..
Originally Posted by JS
If u new anything about windage u wouldnt be having this conversation.
This block is better,it promotes better windage and is worth about 7 to 10RW..
And u have to compare the different heads from 98 to 02
This all plays a part in why it'll make more power,U throw a 241 casting on a LS6 block with 02 programming and its worth more power over its LS1 counterpart or 98,99,00..
This block is better,it promotes better windage and is worth about 7 to 10RW..
And u have to compare the different heads from 98 to 02
This all plays a part in why it'll make more power,U throw a 241 casting on a LS6 block with 02 programming and its worth more power over its LS1 counterpart or 98,99,00..
And if you learned how to read you wouldn't be trying to tell me about 241 heads, or 02 programming. Maybe you haven't read either one of my other post. Here allow me to make it more clear.
I AM ONLY COMPARING 02 LS6 BLOCKED F BODY CARS VE 02 LS1 BLOCKED F BODY CARS. Hell I have only stated that twice. You cant compair the other years because they are different.
What you said in your last post is a fact, but also common knowledge. Trust me I wouldn't argue this" And u have to compare the different heads from 98 to 02. This all plays a part in why it'll make more power,U throw a 241 casting on a LS6 block with 02 programming and its worth more power over its LS1 counterpart or 98,99,00..[/QUOTE]"
I am wanting you to prove that a LS6 blocked 2002 will make more power than a 2002 LS1 blocked car.
You cant prove this because nobody has torn down a complete LS1 blocked 2002 and installed everything in a LS6 block.
I understand your theroy about windage, however the theory can apply to pistons and rods. Just because aftermarket rods are better and even if you buy lighter rods it dosen't guantree you any extra HP. The theory is there, lighter rods means less weight in the drivetrain which should free up some power, but with the avarage LSx car it dosen't do **** for extra power.
Well GM wouldve of never put that much R&D into a block for tee tee..
But your the genious
I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt and say comparing 02 cars ls1 vs ls6 short and your right its probably 5RW max but its still an advantage.
BETTER WINDAGE PROMOTES HP!!!
But your the genious
I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt and say comparing 02 cars ls1 vs ls6 short and your right its probably 5RW max but its still an advantage.
BETTER WINDAGE PROMOTES HP!!!
Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
Even looking at many dyno's of 2002 F bodys with LS1 blocks vs LS6 blocked 2002 F bodies the results are right in line with eachother.
Not trying to be a dick, and I know you normally know your ****, but this one I believe your just a little off base with and dont want some newby reading this and going out and buying a 800 dollar LS6 block for no reason.
Not trying to be a dick, and I know you normally know your ****, but this one I believe your just a little off base with and dont want some newby reading this and going out and buying a 800 dollar LS6 block for no reason.
This is just a copy of my first reply.
Never did I say I was a genious, and I acturally said you are the one who normally knows their ****.
I agree with the theory but it is very unproven.
I know that there are a number of new registors on this site every day and didn't want them geting the wrong idea and try to mod their LS1 block to see 0-very little gains. Also I think we all know GM has spent lots of money and time on R&D to come up with no results. Hell look at all the time they spent a long time ago on these 10 bolts.
Anyways I think we have both got our points accross, and that is what makes this site better than all the rest. Now if someone need to know the difference between a LS1 and LS6 block they have 1 more link to search from.
It looks like you are gonna still believe there is a 5 HP increase and have came down from your 10 HP number you were first using. I guess since you are gonna come half way I will go half way as well and just agree. There is still no proof and hopefully there never will be b/c that would be a huge waste of time to tear a 02 LS1 down only to put it in a 02 LS6 block. Anyways thanks for the entertainment.
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Originally Posted by frey51
how does that TSP225 act on the street? I have an m6 and it would be different for me, but I am looking for good street cam. Thinking of the tsp224R.
with the mods in my sig, minus the TSP cam, with a gm hotcam and ls6 springs, i made 365 rwhp on a superflow at S&R racing in lexington, ky through a stock 98 LS1 intake and stock unported 98 heads, factory torque converter, and 3.23 gear. its not impossible to get an A4 to put up good numbers.