TSP 239 results...
Originally Posted by Master Chief
sorry it took so long to reply but i dynoed last thursday and here are my numbers
374rwhp 390rwtq
3500 stall
3.73 gears
17" ZR1's (heavy)
100k miles
I ran at a crappy track this weekend and went 11.43 @ 122mph bangin the limiter on the 2-3 shift with a 100 wet shot of nitrous and a 1.98 60'!!!
.......... 3000 density altitude and totally stock suspension
.....needless to say I'm satisfied of what i ran regardless of the conditions and 60', I think with a better 60 I should see 10's pretty easily without jetting up
374rwhp 390rwtq
3500 stall
3.73 gears
17" ZR1's (heavy)
100k miles
I ran at a crappy track this weekend and went 11.43 @ 122mph bangin the limiter on the 2-3 shift with a 100 wet shot of nitrous and a 1.98 60'!!!
.......... 3000 density altitude and totally stock suspension.....needless to say I'm satisfied of what i ran regardless of the conditions and 60', I think with a better 60 I should see 10's pretty easily without jetting up
wooooooooooo hooooooooooo
well, went to the tack today, got a tunning problem... as iv already stated.. for some reason, the car would FALL ON ITS *** as soon as i hit second, im thinking the stall was locking up at the shift.. or something, im not sure. it just felt like it had NO power then after a second or two, it would kick back in HARD. :dunno: my best last year was a 12.53@107mph on a 1.71 60..17" drag radials but averaged 12.7x@106 mph
heres todays runs...on 26x11.5 x15 ET streets
run 1
13.23@108.8 1.85 60 8.77@86 1/8th
run 2
12.40@111.3 mph 1.75 60' 7.97@86 mph 1/8th
run 3
12.21@111.0 mph 1.80 60' 7.76@89.5 1/8th
heres todays runs...on 26x11.5 x15 ET streets
run 1
13.23@108.8 1.85 60 8.77@86 1/8th
run 2
12.40@111.3 mph 1.75 60' 7.97@86 mph 1/8th
run 3
12.21@111.0 mph 1.80 60' 7.76@89.5 1/8th
Chris, I hope you have better luck with your trans than I did. Mine crapped the bed when I just got the cam near it, now I gotta sell the cam and some other stuff to build a tranny.....ARRGGHHH 
Originally Posted by tim99ws6
Sounds like you've got some weird tuning/drivetrain issues to work out. That last run looked pretty sweet however, considering your problems you were having!
yea, i think its just tunning. if you remember when i first got it tuned, i said they guy tried to figure out how to lock the convertor by dropping the speed at which it locked.. im thinking it just didnt get set back to where it needed to be, the best way to dscribe how the car felt is.. when you drive an M6 and you shift from 1st to 4th.. then back to second.. thats exactlly what my car felt like. i think the stall locked at the 1-2 shift, causeing it to bog down.. no biggie though.. its just some fine tunning, it will run 11's on cam only no problem.
cant wait to get the heads on there next week
Originally Posted by skimms98
Chris, I hope you have better luck with your trans than I did. Mine crapped the bed when I just got the cam near it, now I gotta sell the cam and some other stuff to build a tranny.....ARRGGHHH
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im not sure what is going on, but the numbers seem low. unlocked you should be making a lot more tq. that more than horsepower indicates something is off. your track numbers seem a little slow as well...
my junk did 11.8's @ 116 with a 228/230 cam on et streets...i never had it dynoed at that time, but i bet it was making ~ 370/370...
ive got a bigger cam and stage 2 5.3 patriot heads and it did 397/404 unlocked...graph in sig
my junk did 11.8's @ 116 with a 228/230 cam on et streets...i never had it dynoed at that time, but i bet it was making ~ 370/370...
ive got a bigger cam and stage 2 5.3 patriot heads and it did 397/404 unlocked...graph in sig
Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
that sucks dude, i wish you didnt have to sell off your parts. i know someone with a good 4l60 for sale for 350 bucks, he also has a vig. 3200 stall for 400 or you could get both for 700 bucks.. let me know if you are interested... he pulled them to go with a th350/3800 stall combo.
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i got the cam installed last week but found out that i have a couple bad lifters, i chose not to stick the car on the dyno untill that issue is resolved. i've already bought the new comp lifters, head bolts/ gaskets and some other stuff 
i will be doing the swap next weekend IF EVERY THING SHOWS UP IN A TIMELY MANNER 
i will be doing the swap next weekend IF EVERY THING SHOWS UP IN A TIMELY MANNER
Originally Posted by 69_YENKO
i got the cam installed last week but found out that i have a couple bad lifters, i chose not to stick the car on the dyno untill that issue is resolved. i've already bought the new comp lifters, head bolts/ gaskets and some other stuff i will be doing the swap next weekend IF EVERY THING SHOWS UP IN A TIMELY MANNER
i will be doing the swap next weekend IF EVERY THING SHOWS UP IN A TIMELY MANNER
Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
So, did you find out you had bad lifters after the install on the first start up? Thats when mine started acting up. I think the new springs are the culprit.. no much pressure for old lifters.
Originally Posted by 69_YENKO
thats exactly right. on the first start up it started making one hell of a racket, we stuck the stock length pushrods back inj and it quited it up a bunch but the problem is still there. TSP also blamed the higher spring preasures as be the main cause.
BTW, you said "we stuck the stock length push rods back in" , i got stock length {7.4) hardened pushrods with my kit, what length did you get?
Damn, I wondered about this. Now I'm wondering if I should reconsider....
1. a smaller cam and run 918's to leave the stocl 101K lifters in?
2. buy another 233/239 when I can and get heads too so I can replace the lifters?
3. leave the damn thing alone with the new tranny and count my blessings I could even afford that?
4. Sell all the goodies and buy a chevette.......
1. a smaller cam and run 918's to leave the stocl 101K lifters in?
2. buy another 233/239 when I can and get heads too so I can replace the lifters?
3. leave the damn thing alone with the new tranny and count my blessings I could even afford that?
4. Sell all the goodies and buy a chevette.......
Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
mine did the rxact same thing.. so i figured if i had to pull the heads to change the lifters. why not talk the wife into letting me get new heads while i was at it
BTW, you said "we stuck the stock length push rods back in" , i got stock length {7.4) hardened pushrods with my kit, what length did you get?
BTW, you said "we stuck the stock length push rods back in" , i got stock length {7.4) hardened pushrods with my kit, what length did you get?
i got 7.4 hardend pushrods with my kit too, but i belive stock length is 7.38 just slightly shorter then the new ones(they were we compared). it honstly did make a differance with the lifter noise
Last edited by 69_YENKO; Mar 12, 2005 at 09:15 PM.
Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
So, did you find out you had bad lifters after the install on the first start up? Thats when mine started acting up. I think the new springs are the culprit.. no much pressure for old lifters.
Originally Posted by 69_YENKO
i was just thinking, have you been beating on your car racing/dynoing with the lifter problems?
hmm.. i ran it at the track, but , the lifter noise isnt persistant, it only pumps up every once in a while.. yea, i know, i shouldnt have ran it, but when i took it to the track it wasnt clicking, and i really wanted to see what it would do cam only..other than that, i havent driven it hard, not that thats not enough.. but it hasnt gotten any worse, I am almost 100% sure its only one lifter pumping up. and it does it at Low Rpm slow driving, but not every time, just eveery onvce in a while...
Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
hmm.. i ran it at the track, but , the lifter noise isnt persistant, it only pumps up every once in a while.. yea, i know, i shouldnt have ran it, but when i took it to the track it wasnt clicking, and i really wanted to see what it would do cam only..other than that, i havent driven it hard, not that thats not enough.. but it hasnt gotten any worse, I am almost 100% sure its only one lifter pumping up. and it does it at Low Rpm slow driving, but not every time, just eveery onvce in a while...
Originally Posted by skimms98
Damn, I wondered about this. Now I'm wondering if I should reconsider....
1. a smaller cam and run 918's to leave the stocl 101K lifters in?
2. buy another 233/239 when I can and get heads too so I can replace the lifters?
3. leave the damn thing alone with the new tranny and count my blessings I could even afford that?
4. Sell all the goodies and buy a chevette.......
1. a smaller cam and run 918's to leave the stocl 101K lifters in?
2. buy another 233/239 when I can and get heads too so I can replace the lifters?
3. leave the damn thing alone with the new tranny and count my blessings I could even afford that?
4. Sell all the goodies and buy a chevette.......
are your lifters ticking now? if not then go for it. mine made alittle noise before the cam but i just thought it was piston slap, well it wasnt and the heavy springs and aggressive lobes just brought out the noise more. Master chief's 98 T/A has 104K and this cam and his stock lifters are doing fine. mine and chris's '00 cars seem to be twins though
Originally Posted by 69_YENKO
i missed it untill just now, buy a Chevette? c'mon now
are your lifters ticking now? if not then go for it. mine made alittle noise before the cam but i just thought it was piston slap, well it wasnt and the heavy springs and aggressive lobes just brought out the noise more. Master chief's 98 T/A has 104K and this cam and his stock lifters are doing fine. mine and chris's '00 cars seem to be twins though
are your lifters ticking now? if not then go for it. mine made alittle noise before the cam but i just thought it was piston slap, well it wasnt and the heavy springs and aggressive lobes just brought out the noise more. Master chief's 98 T/A has 104K and this cam and his stock lifters are doing fine. mine and chris's '00 cars seem to be twins though
yea, looks like it... how many miles you got on yours? i have 78K
