New dyno numbers with MS3
#21
Unlocked, you wouldn't even get a reading below your flashpoint. The graph would only show a curve from your flashpoint and beyond. Right guys?
As for your "interesting drop," I haven't seen your dyno sheet but my guess is it was probably detonation. At 4100 rpm the engine is under highest load and is more prone to detonation. Just my guess, I could be wrong.
As for your "interesting drop," I haven't seen your dyno sheet but my guess is it was probably detonation. At 4100 rpm the engine is under highest load and is more prone to detonation. Just my guess, I could be wrong.
#22
Originally Posted by PewterZ28
Unlocked, you wouldn't even get a reading below your flashpoint. The graph would only show a curve from your flashpoint and beyond. Right guys?
As for your "interesting drop," I haven't seen your dyno sheet but my guess is it was probably detonation. At 4100 rpm the engine is under highest load and is more prone to detonation. Just my guess, I could be wrong.
As for your "interesting drop," I haven't seen your dyno sheet but my guess is it was probably detonation. At 4100 rpm the engine is under highest load and is more prone to detonation. Just my guess, I could be wrong.
#23
Maybe Bain or someone else can explain it better than I can but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
Basically, your converter just flashes up to its stall speed and the tires don't move much until the converter hits its flash point. At that point the converter grabs and starts to turn and the tires are also now turning and the dyno can begin making readings. That's the best I can explain it from what I know.
That's pretty much the case when you go from 0% throttle to 100% throttle. Not much happens until your rpm reach the flash point of you converter, then the car starts moving. Sure you might get a half revolution of the tire but it's not enough to get a reading.
Basically, your converter just flashes up to its stall speed and the tires don't move much until the converter hits its flash point. At that point the converter grabs and starts to turn and the tires are also now turning and the dyno can begin making readings. That's the best I can explain it from what I know.
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
That's like saying that your car won't move till you reach your flash point if you ask me.
#24
Originally Posted by PewterZ28
Maybe Bain or someone else can explain it better than I can but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
Basically, your converter just flashes up to its stall speed and the tires don't move much until the converter hits its flash point. At that point the converter grabs and starts to turn and the tires are also now turning and the dyno can begin making readings. That's the best I can explain it from what I know.
That's pretty much the case when you go from 0% throttle to 100% throttle. Not much happens until your rpm reach the flash point of you converter, then the car starts moving. Sure you might get a half revolution of the tire but it's not enough to get a reading.
Basically, your converter just flashes up to its stall speed and the tires don't move much until the converter hits its flash point. At that point the converter grabs and starts to turn and the tires are also now turning and the dyno can begin making readings. That's the best I can explain it from what I know.
That's pretty much the case when you go from 0% throttle to 100% throttle. Not much happens until your rpm reach the flash point of you converter, then the car starts moving. Sure you might get a half revolution of the tire but it's not enough to get a reading.
#25
When you dyno an A4 with a stall it will automatically flash to it's stall speed on the dyno when you hammer the gas in 3rd gear then it will start to taper off. Also if the 4000 converter was unlocked it would have shifted down to 2nd when you punched it at 3500rpm and messed up the dyno run.
Here is an example of an unlocked dyno
Here is an example of an unlocked dyno
#26
If you look at BAIN's dyno, you can see the converter "coupling point" at 6300 rpm. That's the rpm where the pump and turbine start coupling up and efficiency goes way up. Anything below the coupling point, you are using the the stator to multiply torque.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
#27
Originally Posted by Patrick G
If you look at BAIN's dyno, you can see the converter "coupling point" at 6300 rpm. That's the rpm where the pump and turbine start coupling up and efficiency goes way up. Anything below the coupling point, you are using the the stator to multiply torque.
#28
the easy way to tell if TC is lock or not is to look at the RPM. The unlocked graph shows RPM way passed the 7000 (or way above the rev limiter), like in BAIN's dyno graph (I bet you that his rev limiter is not @ 7500). The locked graph like yours stops @ about your rev limiter.