RWHP/TQ and ET Estimate for H/C 6.0L (Long thread/ Many ?s)
07-08-2005, 04:03 PM
#1
RWHP/TQ and ET Estimate for H/C 6.0L (Long thread/ Many ?s) well a lifter blew on my stock 5.7 so i am upgrading to 6.0 shortblock (block crank (polished & balanced), rods, pistons, new rings and bearings). What do you think i will dyno? Im 99% sure I'll dyno with G-Force. Here is my setup. I kinda went in without doing very much research cuz of price and turn around time. I didnt find as much info as I thought that I would. M6, Stock 10 bolt 3.42s w/ Rear Cover.
Comp "R" Lifters
LS6 Intake
TR224 cam (224/224 .563/.563 112, obviously) on Comp 918s ***Should i get Tit. Retainers?***
P&P Heads (Either 5.3 or 5.7) ***Which route do you think will be better?***
Pacesetter LTs Coated
TSP TD Sweet Thunder Exhaust (Hopefully)
Ported TB ***Havent got this yet, Whos the best to get, If a non-sponsor, PM me***
Hotchkis LCAs and Panhard Rod
Smooth Bellows
MTI Lid
Spec Stg. 3 Clutch
B&M Ripper
ASP Underdrive Pulley ***this swaps over from 5.7 to 6.0 correct?***
Granatelli MAF
TB Bypass
Upgraded Clutch Hydraulics
I understand the motor is iron and heavier, but how much heavier and how sluggish will it make the car? No 14 second quarters right?
What do you think i can estimate i will run? Havent been to the track ever, in my life. No Nitrous either. The track i will run at is I think called HRP, in Baytown, so you TX kids chime in.
Comp "R" Lifters
LS6 Intake
TR224 cam (224/224 .563/.563 112, obviously) on Comp 918s ***Should i get Tit. Retainers?***
P&P Heads (Either 5.3 or 5.7) ***Which route do you think will be better?***
Pacesetter LTs Coated
TSP TD Sweet Thunder Exhaust (Hopefully)
Ported TB ***Havent got this yet, Whos the best to get, If a non-sponsor, PM me***
Hotchkis LCAs and Panhard Rod
Smooth Bellows
MTI Lid
Spec Stg. 3 Clutch
B&M Ripper
ASP Underdrive Pulley ***this swaps over from 5.7 to 6.0 correct?***
Granatelli MAF
TB Bypass
Upgraded Clutch Hydraulics
I understand the motor is iron and heavier, but how much heavier and how sluggish will it make the car? No 14 second quarters right?
What do you think i can estimate i will run? Havent been to the track ever, in my life. No Nitrous either. The track i will run at is I think called HRP, in Baytown, so you TX kids chime in.
07-19-2005, 11:23 PM
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ok lets start now yes get tit. retainers they are very nice to have if you get the 5.3 heads ported you have a higher comperssion which equals more power so id say those wud be nice a ported stock 6.0 is good enough as far as the pulley it is a crank pulley and i believe it is the same yes the iron is heavier but i can safely say with that list you would see at least low 12's if not somewhere in the 11's considering you get it tuned also practice launching subframe connectors area must as well and some drag radials and 11's are rate around the corner id say you prolly wud put down somewhere close to 430rwhp
07-21-2005, 04:05 PM
#5
That is a very very small cam for the 6.0's bigger cubes. I'm running a 6.0 bored .060 over right now with a 242/248 cam. Most people would suggest something in that area, or at least something in the low 230's duration. The 5.7 or 5.3 heads are going to raise compression a bit if that's what u're going for. Any ported TB is just fine. Look in the For Sale section to pick one up. The pulley does swap over.
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07-21-2005, 09:56 PM
#8
Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
nah, just really limiting its potential.
07-21-2005, 10:01 PM
#9
Depends on which heads you go with and their flow numbers. If your heads peak flow is at .600 then you're going to want a cam with lift numbers near .600 (which traditionally is a duration in the upper 230's, maybe 240). However, I'm quite a hypocrit in saying this because I have stock 6.0 heads on my engine which flow like crap and are restricting me a lot with my big cam (with a .635/.627 lift)... I just put all my money in this damn engine and am still trying to get it tuned 
07-22-2005, 05:48 PM
#10
Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
Depends on which heads you go with and their flow numbers. If your heads peak flow is at .600 then you're going to want a cam with lift numbers near .600 (which traditionally is a duration in the upper 230's, maybe 240). However, I'm quite a hypocrit in saying this because I have stock 6.0 heads on my engine which flow like crap and are restricting me a lot with my big cam (with a .635/.627 lift)... I just put all my money in this damn engine and am still trying to get it tuned
ill prob do suspension and a rear end first tho. thanks for all the info and help and good luck with your car.
07-24-2005, 03:07 AM
#13
If you get a good set (the definition of 'good set' still being determined if you've been following along in the PRC vs. AFR threads) of stage 2 (or 2.5) P&P heads, you're looking at 300 cfm flow (at very least) @ .600 lift. That cam will be pretty small for those flow numbers, but would def put you at the low 400's like you're talking. Step up to a bigger cam like a low 240's duration, and you can laugh in the face of 430 
but I know you're looking for input from others so everyone else feel free to chime in on this one.
but I know you're looking for input from others so everyone else feel free to chime in on this one.
07-25-2005, 03:41 PM
#15
With ARP rod bolts, 6900rpm is about as high as you'd want to rev it. Sure you can take it upto 7200 or so, but it won't last. Plus with that small cam, your peak power won't come close to that, nor will you be able to carry power even close to 6900. You'll make a lot of torque, but not peak HP. Better look at a bigger cam if you want highend horsepower. Comp XE-R 240/244 .609/.612 113+1 LSA would be a pretty good match if you ever get decent heads, but will make good power on the stock 6.0L heads in the mean time.
Also, I wouldn't get Comp R lifters unless you have a specific need to adjust preload. The Comp 850s work much better as a drop in lifter, especially with a small cam and are generally $30 cheaper.
Also, I wouldn't get Comp R lifters unless you have a specific need to adjust preload. The Comp 850s work much better as a drop in lifter, especially with a small cam and are generally $30 cheaper.
07-26-2005, 04:29 PM
#16
Originally Posted by JakeFusion
With ARP rod bolts, 6900rpm is about as high as you'd want to rev it. Sure you can take it upto 7200 or so, but it won't last. Plus with that small cam, your peak power won't come close to that, nor will you be able to carry power even close to 6900. You'll make a lot of torque, but not peak HP. Better look at a bigger cam if you want highend horsepower. Comp XE-R 240/244 .609/.612 113+1 LSA would be a pretty good match if you ever get decent heads, but will make good power on the stock 6.0L heads in the mean time.
Also, I wouldn't get Comp R lifters unless you have a specific need to adjust preload. The Comp 850s work much better as a drop in lifter, especially with a small cam and are generally $30 cheaper.
Also, I wouldn't get Comp R lifters unless you have a specific need to adjust preload. The Comp 850s work much better as a drop in lifter, especially with a small cam and are generally $30 cheaper.