do these numbers seem correct at the strip
do these numbers seem correct at the strip to start off im not sure if im even posting this in the right forum (hope so) but maybee you can help me with thisdo these numbers sound correct from the drag strip getting good launches at around 2500 and spining alot through second gear and im still new to the strip so the reaction times are realy bad but maybe you could give me and opinion if you think my car isnt runnin right or if it was the spinning through second
Reaction-1.4369
60foot-2.1633
330foot-6.1051
1/8 ET-9.2728
1/8MPH-78.45
1000ET-11.9402
1/4ET-14.2132
1/4MPH-97.42
any input to as if you think the car is not right or if it was the spinning through second gear that made these times
Reaction-1.4369
60foot-2.1633
330foot-6.1051
1/8 ET-9.2728
1/8MPH-78.45
1000ET-11.9402
1/4ET-14.2132
1/4MPH-97.42
any input to as if you think the car is not right or if it was the spinning through second gear that made these times
well,my 2000 ss m6 ran 12.69.I forget the mph and i have slp lt's,whisper lid,spec w/aluminum fly,hpyr programmer,180 stat,a few spohn components and drag niito's.
If your spinning that much you need some new rubber.But i think that your mph is consistant w/your mph.
IMO even spinning that's kinda slow.
We'll wait for more input,some guys on here really no there ****!
If your spinning that much you need some new rubber.But i think that your mph is consistant w/your mph.
IMO even spinning that's kinda slow.
We'll wait for more input,some guys on here really no there ****!
do you think i might need a tune i have not had a tune yet and the car seems to run pretty rich to me but it seems to run pretty good when i hook it i smoke on my friends 01 GT all day long even when i spin in second i still whip him i am running a 285-40-ZR17 Kumho Exsta Supra 712's Brand new first time at the track with these tires i figured these would be wide enough to hook it i did a good burnout at the strip and i hooked pretty good off the line thats why i dont understand why they broke loose in second like that do i need to grany shift it into second or what i think i shift pretty hard but thats just my opinion dont know about anyone else do you think that a set of springs for the rear would help (thats the only thing stock on the rear still)besides the rear itself
yes i would say that is a slow mph manily because you said you were spinning so bad usally when you spin you trap higher speeds, a tune could help but you really need to find out why you are spinning in second gear not first that is the issue
thats what i cant figure out it hooks great in first but second comes and its stuck at 5500 rpm's all the way through second cant figure it out do you think it could be the tires even though they are brand new and i think they are pretty wide i figured it would hook what do you think this could be i have no idea is it time for drag springs or what, i cant do anything else to the rear except springs or a whole new rear alltogather but whats weird is it will hook on the street in town all day long in second i dont understand ohh well any input would help alot thanks
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That's a really low mph, even for a completely stock car in the summer heat.
Your 60 ft is actually decent considering its an M6 on street radials.
Are you certain your clutch isn't slipping. I don't see how you could maintain 5500 all the way through second gear, it should hook eventually, granted you get all of first gear and arent going like 5 mph. Unless your clutch just isn't holding.
For comparison, my car went 12.7x @ 113.xx on a 2.15, and 88 or so in the 8th. I shift pretty hard into second and it spun the tires for a bit, but then hooked and went. (Not good tires either, that was actually the best short time I've had yet.)
If your not breaking loose at the top of first or during the launch, but then through all of 2nd, might be something else wrong.
Your 60 ft is actually decent considering its an M6 on street radials.
Are you certain your clutch isn't slipping. I don't see how you could maintain 5500 all the way through second gear, it should hook eventually, granted you get all of first gear and arent going like 5 mph. Unless your clutch just isn't holding.
For comparison, my car went 12.7x @ 113.xx on a 2.15, and 88 or so in the 8th. I shift pretty hard into second and it spun the tires for a bit, but then hooked and went. (Not good tires either, that was actually the best short time I've had yet.)
If your not breaking loose at the top of first or during the launch, but then through all of 2nd, might be something else wrong.
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I've raced at that track before, and think they only prep the starting line. Most LS1's around here will go that time stock, but I'd think yours can go well into the 13's without the traction issues. Street tires in a M6 car don't work too well around here either. 
Sometimes when you add headers, other problems show up, sometimes tuning related. With as minimal engine work done, I wouldn't think a tune would be needed, are there any codes stored in the PCM or anything else weird going on? Has it been on a dyno recently? Could be fuel related also.
BTW, are you on anythingcars.com too? I have the same username there too.
Sometimes when you add headers, other problems show up, sometimes tuning related. With as minimal engine work done, I wouldn't think a tune would be needed, are there any codes stored in the PCM or anything else weird going on? Has it been on a dyno recently? Could be fuel related also.
BTW, are you on anythingcars.com too? I have the same username there too.
everything is clear code wise, and i dont think my clutch is slipping, my car is sideways all the way through second it hooks for like half a second at the very end of second gear and then i even get a little sideways for just a split second in third two, and if the clutch was sliping wouldnt it slip off of the line,when i launch it grabs very hard, i think it might have something to do with the track, the same night i saw a BMW almost hit the wall in 3rd gear cause he was all over the place i didnt realy see anyone else with traction problems in the other lane but it did seem everyone that was in the lane i ran in was spining alot, and it wasnt off the launch it was a little ways down the track when they would start spinning, the car has never been dynoed do you think i need to get this done just to see how the motors acting and to see what kinda power im pullin, we have a dyno here in town but they canot tune the ls1's yet they dont have the program. Its weird i can totaly hook up running around in town but at the track its a different story. And yes i have been on anythingcars.com i went to a picture thing they did here in town i had a different car then(1980 Z28)
Last edited by Odessastangslayer; Oct 25, 2005 at 02:02 PM.
I have always had problems with this car not hooking up, that why the first things i did were suspention to make it hook up and it helped tremendously but just not quite enough what about a set of drag springs (the ones with the air bag inside the right rear coil spring) would these help you think and what about subframe connectors would these help alot or not, i am about to be sprayin a 100 shot to it sometime pretty soon, thats why iv got to get these traction issues out of the way
What is your TA set on (pinion angle?)
I think you need a set of drag radials, your suspension mods are probably just planting the street tires too much causing extra problems.. I ran the times in my sig at the same track on DR's.. with stock suspension, stock weight and stock rearend.
I've probably seen you at Penwell before, I go all the time..
I think you need a set of drag radials, your suspension mods are probably just planting the street tires too much causing extra problems.. I ran the times in my sig at the same track on DR's.. with stock suspension, stock weight and stock rearend.
I've probably seen you at Penwell before, I go all the time..
I would try the drag radials as me and chris81 suggested.I like my nittos but m/t makes great ones to.It certanly won't hurt ,except maybe your read end.
I would double check your cluch also i have a spec 3 now but i bought a spec 2 plus series i'm going to install when this goes.The spec 2 plus gives alot less chatter plus the ability to hold 630ft lbs of torque!
I would double check your cluch also i have a spec 3 now but i bought a spec 2 plus series i'm going to install when this goes.The spec 2 plus gives alot less chatter plus the ability to hold 630ft lbs of torque!
I have the BMR non adjustable tourque arm and they say it is set for the optimum 2-3 degree pinion angle so im not sure what to do you think it has anything to do with the track well at least the left lane anyway (actualy dont think i have ever ran in the right lane) it seemd like alot of people were having problems hookin in the left lane but you think i need drag radials, what about the drag springs that i have seen do you think this will help at all
Originally Posted by Odessastangslayer
I have the BMR non adjustable tourque arm and they say it is set for the optimum 2-3 degree pinion angle so im not sure what to do you think it has anything to do with the track well at least the left lane anyway (actualy dont think i have ever ran in the right lane) it seemd like alot of people were having problems hookin in the left lane but you think i need drag radials, what about the drag springs that i have seen do you think this will help at all
My advice to you is drag radials and practice practice practice, I don't really think springs with help you with your current setup.
I would'nt go with springs.I'm no suspension guru becuase it can help in certain situatuions.I got slp frame con and Qa1 12 way shocks,spohn adj pan hard and control arms w/ my drag radials and it hooks HARD!!!!!!!! I'm terrified to do a 4k dump! But obviosly it contributed to my 12.69 pass.My car was dyno'ed at 335 rwhp.
I wouldn't spend the money on springs. On a M6 car with your current HP, I wouldn't put anything more than some sub-frame connectors and maybe some lower-control arms and relocation brackets. I would go ahead and invest in some drag radials as well. I've run at Penwell several times and the track prep isn't the best, but you should be able to get the car hooked up a little better than what you are describing. Remember that the air isn't the best either. You can drop 1/2 a second from there to Dallas! More than anything, just practice your shifts and playing with the throttle to get the car hooked up before you slam it to the floor! 
Jon
Jon
thanks alot for the advice, and i do have lower control arms from BMR (non-adjustable) but tubular, so i will get some new drag radials and subframe connectors, so you think that with the addition of these new parts that i can get it to hook even with a 100 shot sprayin in 2nd gear or would you recomend delaying it untill 3rd gear