TR224 cam + TSP LT Headers + tune = 353/350 rwhp/rwtq!!??
11-01-2006 | 11:03 PM
#24
seems very low... Collin on this board with a 98 SS and a TR 224 114 LSA with mid length headers put down 350 rwhp, I saw the dyno. So you with LT's and not cats seems a bit low.
Last edited by Blown_Red_97z; 11-01-2006 at 11:08 PM.
11-02-2006 | 02:34 AM
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no one noticed the LT's are TSP, did you cut/chop and reuse the H-pipe with their connectors or did you have a custom X-pipe fabbed up? i think your results are due to the "budget" header from TSP and reusing the stock h-pipe with connectors from TSP. sorry to see and hear your disappointment.
11-02-2006 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown_Red_97z
seems very low... Collin on this board with a 98 SS and a TR 224 114 LSA with mid length headers put down 350 rwhp, I saw the dyno. So you with LT's and not cats seems a bit low.
11-02-2006 | 07:56 AM
#27
Originally Posted by Blown04Z06
no one noticed the LT's are TSP, did you cut/chop and reuse the H-pipe with their connectors or did you have a custom X-pipe fabbed up? i think your results are due to the "budget" header from TSP and reusing the stock h-pipe with connectors from TSP. sorry to see and hear your disappointment.
11-02-2006 | 08:20 AM
#28
I would check the cam install. It's possible that it isn't installed at the proper ICL and therefore you are down on power. Dot to dot doens't make it correct....the shop should degree the cam.
I also agree with checking all the little things like tune-up items, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, throttle blade, etc.
The tune seems like it could be off as well with that torque dip from 2600 to 4200 rpm.
Fix the problem at hand before adding more mods to compensate!
I also agree with checking all the little things like tune-up items, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, throttle blade, etc.
The tune seems like it could be off as well with that torque dip from 2600 to 4200 rpm.
Fix the problem at hand before adding more mods to compensate!
11-02-2006 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NOBR8KSS
I would check the cam install. It's possible that it isn't installed at the proper ICL and therefore you are down on power. Dot to dot doens't make it correct....the shop should degree the cam.
I also agree with checking all the little things like tune-up items, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, throttle blade, etc.
The tune seems like it could be off as well with that torque dip from 2600 to 4200 rpm.
Fix the problem at hand before adding more mods to compensate!
I also agree with checking all the little things like tune-up items, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, throttle blade, etc.
The tune seems like it could be off as well with that torque dip from 2600 to 4200 rpm.
Fix the problem at hand before adding more mods to compensate!
I just moved to PA from NJ so getting back to the shop is not going to be that easy, plus my confidence in them is not the highest right now after everything that happened
While the car was there some "issues" arrose with the car loading up bad so the MAF and MAP sensors were replaced so there shouldn't be any issues with those but...
I'm going back to NJ this weekend so I'll grab the old cam just to be sure on that
Looks like I'm going to have to find another tuner in the King of Prussia area...any recommendations on shops that really know vettes?
11-02-2006 | 08:44 AM
#30
Originally Posted by NOBR8KSS
I would check the cam install. It's possible that it isn't installed at the proper ICL and therefore you are down on power. Dot to dot doens't make it correct....the shop should degree the cam.
I also agree with checking all the little things like tune-up items, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, throttle blade, etc.
The tune seems like it could be off as well with that torque dip from 2600 to 4200 rpm.
Fix the problem at hand before adding more mods to compensate!
I also agree with checking all the little things like tune-up items, fuel filter, air filter, MAF sensor, throttle blade, etc.
The tune seems like it could be off as well with that torque dip from 2600 to 4200 rpm.
Fix the problem at hand before adding more mods to compensate!
11-02-2006 | 09:04 AM
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Dude, TTP is a top notch shop, im sure they will make it right if there was something wrong on their end. IF you need another tuner thats closer. Check out Mikey at Rapidmotorsports or Harris speed works in Warminster, PA. Both sponsors here and everyone likes and praises their work.
11-02-2006 | 09:19 AM
#32
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
You dyno'd low before the Cam too
310rwhp SAE with Corsa catback and CAI only...stock tune. seems about right for a 99 with ls1 intake... 
Last edited by RealQuick; 11-02-2006 at 09:32 AM.
11-02-2006 | 11:22 AM
#33
If it makes you feel better with an LS6 intake and the TR224 on a 114lsa I made ~368/364 I dont think your Dyno is way off some cars just dont Dyno well......I was turning out some good times and MPH at the track. This was a Long time ago....red was tr224
11-02-2006 | 11:40 AM
#34
Originally Posted by RealQuick
310rwhp SAE with Corsa catback and CAI only...stock tune. seems about right for a 99 with ls1 intake... 
I meant it wasn't a dyno queen to start with
11-02-2006 | 12:39 PM
#35
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I meant it wasn't a dyno queen to start with 
BTW, Christian forgot to mention that the vette actually made 370rwhp on the dyno when the job was completed. Then he drove home and it was running pig rich and stumbling due to no rear O2 sensors not being put in afte the LT's were installed. They corrected the stumbling and now it runs good, but was retuned and dynoed at 353rwhp... where did the loss in power go if they were both dyno tunes done by the same tuner at the same dyno?
11-02-2006 | 01:14 PM
#36
[QUOTE=RealQuick Then he drove home and it was running pig rich and stumbling due to no rear O2 sensors not being put in afte the LT's were installed. [/QUOTE]
The rear O2 sensors are used as a check only an have no input on the air fuel at all. Most likely something else was jacked up.
The rear O2 sensors are used as a check only an have no input on the air fuel at all. Most likely something else was jacked up.
11-02-2006 | 01:20 PM
#37
Originally Posted by MSGHUFF
The rear O2 sensors are used as a check only an have no input on the air fuel at all. Most likely something else was jacked up.
11-02-2006 | 02:20 PM
#39
Originally Posted by MSGHUFF
Re-read my post again your REAR O2's control nothing and dont effect the air fuel
http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm?catagory=Exhaust
They have the sims if you delete the rear O2's and cats.
11-02-2006 | 02:31 PM
#40
The rear O2's are there to check and see if the CATs are working and nothing else. It doesnt matter if you delete them, disconect them or use sims they still will not effect the air fuel. If you gutted or removed the cats you would have to use O2 sims or have the tuner disable the codes for the SES light. It sounds to me like the tuner adjusted something else and threw the car off..