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WTF!!! MS4 Dyno's 336rwhp/290rwtq!!! Something's Wrong Here!!!

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Old 03-19-2007, 12:52 AM
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im just curious to why everyone's sayin he needs a LOWER stall!?!?! my cam's nowhere near as big as an ms4 and people are tellin me to get a 3600-3800....the t rex barely has a bigger duration and it has LESS lift and thunder racing recommends a 4k + stall for that???


im confused...if he has it restalled, i dont see why he should go with a lower stall speed
Old 03-19-2007, 01:08 PM
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Like I said on FAST... dyno #'s don't mean ****... get it to the track for times.
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I just took it down the road and the stall WAS locking. It locked in both 3rd and drive and at 55 mph the engine speed was about 2000 rpm. It was idling kind of weird though. As I would slow down to stop from a cruise, it would idle really fast...like 1400-1500 rpm (that's compensating for the tach being off...it really said 1600-1700). When I got home and let it sit for about 20-30 sec. it finally slowed the idle back down to normal, which I think is set at about 850-860 rpm. It seems like my tranny may be slipping.

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Old 03-20-2007, 01:27 PM
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I made 360rwhp with the TR230 cam and a TP4400 converter. I don't think this converter is too loose at all. The vig3200 i had in the car before it was REDICULOUSLY tight.
Try to get the car to a board sponsor with a lot of ls1 experience, it couldn't hurt.
Old 03-20-2007, 06:06 PM
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The guys that I took it to have a lot of experience with LS1's. Very knowledgeable people. I think the closest sponsor is like in Chicago, which is 8 hours from here.
Old 03-20-2007, 08:21 PM
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you need a LS6 intake.
Old 03-20-2007, 08:30 PM
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Might look into getting one once the vette is gone and I have some extra dough. I guess I'll aim for that, underdrive pulley, and a ported throttle body. Everybody think my tranny may be on the way out?
Old 03-20-2007, 09:31 PM
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I think we need to get it to the track on Saturday! Weather permitting, of course....Damn rain.
Old 03-20-2007, 10:02 PM
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i definetly say track time but i would say the engine needs to breath better. however, i have a M6 so i dont know about 4l60e dynos. i know my t-rex on a dyno dynamics read higher and that is the lowest riding dyno you can find.
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WOW when I seen that I thought someone stole my video camera. I have a 98 TA and just got dynotuned there less than 2 weeks ago mine is also red. I put down 373 HP and 371 TQ through a M6 with 3.90s in a 10 bolt and a smaller cam and headers still ls1 intake. The Tuner is AWSOME great people. Your #s sound low but looks like it runs strong if you want I will try to post mine if you want to see.
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Originally Posted by WS6 SRT-8
I think we need to get it to the track on Saturday! Weather permitting, of course....Damn rain.
Hmm...I'm pretty broke right now after the tune and I don't have access to any DR's or anything right now either. Maybe in a couple weeks I can make it up there. I'll let you know.

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WOW when I seen that I thought someone stole my video camera. I have a 98 TA and just got dynotuned there less than 2 weeks ago mine is also red. I put down 373 HP and 371 TQ through a M6 with 3.90s in a 10 bolt and a smaller cam and headers still ls1 intake. The Tuner is AWSOME great people. Your #s sound low but looks like it runs strong if you want I will try to post mine if you want to see.
Yeah that would be cool. Where are you at in So. IL? I'm in Cape.
Old 03-21-2007, 06:25 PM
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Those are low numbers ut like some of the local guys have said, get it to the track. Sell your man juice if you need $$$
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I'd never be able to sell it...it's price less. I took my car for a spin a few minutes ago and it still seems tranny related to me. I noticed two things during the drive.
1) I need new brakes.
2) The stall would lock, unlock, then lock up again after a few seconds during normal acceleration.
Take a look at the video I made during the drive. You can see the #2 item at around 22-23 sec. It also just doesn't feel like it's pulling like it should during hard acceleration. Check it out here (3rd Video):

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/679022-sound-clip-finally-got-tune-ms4-td-s-1-chambers.html
Old 03-21-2007, 08:10 PM
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It really sounds like the stall. The shifts seem fine. It doesn't seem like they are slipping or anything. But the stall on the other hand sounds like its slipping its *** off! Get a new stall in that thing and go from there. The locking in and out definatley is not right.
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Not really what I wanted to hear. Is there any sure-fire way that I can definitively say it is "X" problem? Some way to tell that it is the stall vs. the tranny?
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Originally Posted by 01'WS6
But the stall on the other hand sounds like its slipping its *** off!
Yeah it does
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ya it sounds like its blowing through the stall. engine sounds healthy tho.
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Originally Posted by Jditlfm
ya it sounds like its blowing through the stall. engine sounds healthy tho.
Little bit of bitter sweet info. I guess. Anybody else wants to verify, dont hesitate.
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Sounds like from your thread that it's the stall. Did you replace your stall with a used one?


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