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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Default Updated Results for our 416/TrickFlow Stroker...

Im sure most of you have seen our other thread in regards to our recent build of a 416/TrickFlow Head Combo.......

Well last night we pulled out the 4:56s and installed 4:11s... This was done so the car can make it through the traps.... 4:56=123mph and 4:11s=137mph

Anyway, after the alignment today and the gear swap last night I decided to put the car on the dyno and see the difference the gear swap made.... This was the ONLY change to the vehicle..... Enjoy

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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17hp and 36tq more than this H/C car?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/661579-trickflow-vengeance-racing-521-464-dyno-graph-inside.html

I guess I expected more
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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17hp and 36tq more than this H/C car?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=661579

I guess I expected more

That Z06 is a 6 speed, this car has a TH400 and a full drag race setup.. not exactly a "dyno queen."

Badass results Vengeance!
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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What kind of power does it make with the converter UNlocked?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Here we go again...... but at least Chris81 can comprehend the big picture.

As I previously mentioned in the other thread, I specifically asked for my car to remain "street friendly". I got what I asked for, and then some.

Maybe it's just me, and I'm easy to impress, but take a close look at where the tq. is happening, and how LONG and FLAT it holds the peak tq. number.

I like it, and as far as I'm concerned, it's not just good, it's great for a non exotic "budget" build with a baby cam for the inches and a FAST 90/90 combo. But heh.... that's just me. I've got a sneaking suspicion this motor is going to LOVE a big wet HIT.

Maybe I'll just nut up and do a donkey dick cam, Vic jr. or sheetmetal/Accufab combo and re-tune so that it'll push more air, peak @ 7200 somewhere in the neighborhood of 560+ and post the graph so all the narrow minded, non believers can call BS on the numbers.

Please.

Take your stellar 358/378 on corn and go run your 13.1@108

As far as what it did unlocked, Ron may or may not answer that. Personally IDGAF what it dyno'd or that it isn't enough for the internet. What I give a ***** about is what it does at the track, and am confident that while it may or may not ET a stellar number first time out, it will mph.... WELL.


Thanx for all the effort Ron... see you in the AM

*EDIT*: I apologize to those reading this rant.... just get a little weary of all the frowns....

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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137 mph That's EASILY liter bike territory. Have fun raping 600's and most 750's, oh and 99.9% of any cars you run into on the street
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SLowETz
Take your stellar 358/378 on corn and go run your 13.1@108

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SLowETz

Please.

Take your stellar 358/378 on corn and go run your 13.1@108



As far as what it did unlocked, Ron may or may not answer that. Personally IDGAF what it dyno'd or that it isn't enough for the internet. What I give a ***** about is what it does at the track, and am confident that while it may or may not ET a stellar number first time out, it will mph.... WELL.

Damn! you just **** on that guy


I agree as long as it runs good at the track the dyno is just a tool to get it there.
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I wouldn't say those are stellar numbers but they're definitely not horrible. I would think it would hold power longer than it does with those heads. TEA ported heads falling off at 6k?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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If 538rwhp is thru an automatic, that is automagically STUPENDOUS. That would be like 570-580RWHP thru a stick.

The TQ also is STUPENDOUS for an automatic.

Once again, the joke until they catch up. These TFS/Fast90/Auto numbers are higher than Hot L92/L76/6speed combination.
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Congrats. Curious as to why there were 5 dyno pulls done from the swap of gears?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Damn, what's with all the hatin'. I guess some people just don't get it when it comes to an actaul car that is built for the track, vs. a dyno queen.

Congrats on the numbers, again. And again, I know where I will be coming for my future motor needs.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Killer numbers, cant debate that. TH400 and heavy driveline...........thats killing it. I am waiting to see how high it will trap. If it hits that 137mph mark, thats flat *** moving.
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
I wouldn't say those are stellar numbers but they're definitely not horrible. I would think it would hold power longer than it does with those heads. TEA ported heads falling off at 6k?
We thought it would hold on a little longer also, but I really don't think it's the TEA/TFS heads falling off..... they do flow real well up top(Thanx Brian )

Looking at the graph, my bet is it's either a small cam with advance ground in(which it is), and/or the FAST 90 choking up top(not enough air).

We'll see how it mph's Sunday and make a decision as to whether or not a change or two need to be made-

Thanx for all the replies(I think ).
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SLowETz
Looking at the graph, my bet is it's either a small cam with advance ground in(which it is), and/or the FAST 90 choking up top(not enough air).
I wonder if a reverse split cam would help? Would be interesting to see the results, as it seems like the LSx engine is always wanting more intake flow.
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At this point we can only speculate. It was my decision to go w/a single pattern stick based on the head numbers and my previous good experiences w/single pat. cams.

Mike spec'd the cam based on my overall objectives.
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Originally Posted by SLowETz
At this point we can only speculate. It was my decision to go w/a single pattern stick based on the head numbers and my previous good experiences w/single pat. cams.

Mike spec'd the cam based on my overall objectives.
I guess it doesn't really matter at this point anyways. Hell, if it was my car I would be tickled to death. I know you can't wait to hit the track. Keep us updated!
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I've seen t-56 to Th400 with a 4000 stall soakin up 70 hp, those numbers kick ***.
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Originally Posted by JDPZ28
I guess it doesn't really matter at this point anyways. Hell, if it was my car I would be tickled to death. I know you can't wait to hit the track. Keep us updated!
Thanx JDP. Will do!
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
I've seen t-56 to Th400 with a 4000 stall soakin up 70 hp, those numbers kick ***.
Yeah, that was a big concern when I did the swap....
Although the verter was locked, the old H/C 346 only lost 20rwhp/24rwtq. w/the TH400.

This Yank verter seems fairly efficient-

Thanx for the props guys, but all I did was drop it off at my buddy's shop w/a check
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