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Old 03-25-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default blown 347 stang - is this guy full of it? 560rwhp?!

I just saw this for sale by a guy I knew and was wondering if he was full of it. ...

302 block
M-6013-A347 Stroker Kit
4340 3.40" forged steel crank
4.030" forged pistons
4340 forged steel Rods 5.315"
one piece rear main seal
ARP Bolts throughout
Rear Main Girdle
Comp Cam Xtreme Energy 266/274 dur, .544/.555 lift 112 lsa
trick flow twisted wedge heads
GT40 ford racing intake
ford racing 36# fuel injectors
intank and external fuel pump (I believe 190 in, 255 out)
75mm mass air
BBK Power Plus 70mm EGR plate
BBK 70mm Throttle Body
K&N Air Filter

Vortech S-Trim Blower
10-12lb pulley
Vortech Fuel Management Unit
Vortech 4:1 FMU Recalibration Kit
15" flex-a-lite electric fan
aluminum water pump
Ford Racing 2 row Aluminum Radiator
aluminum battery box - battery relocated to the back
AFPR
Accel Super Coil
Vortech / MSD Boost Timing Master
MSD 6A Ignition Box
mac 1 1/2 equal length headers
H Pipe
2 1/2" pipes
flowmaster mufflers & turndowns

if so, what kind of power do you really think he is making??
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Not impossible to do, I'd think low 500's though at best, probably a little less than 500 at the wheels, the exhaust setup doesn't seem up to par.

My 306ci on 15psi made 575rwhp through a C4 on a Mustang Dyno.
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Very possible.
I was at 498 with my S-trim 12psi and twisted wedge heads on a stock internal 302 and a much smaller camshaft.
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Not far away i've seen one down here putting down near 496rwhp with 306ci on 12psi so it's not that hard to beat
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thats easy numbers with that setup, but he does need a bigger exhaust, I have seen a all motor 347 run just under 480 rwhp sae. really all depends on how well everything is working together, I think its kind of funny, I see a 04 cobra with all the bolt ons, a whipple and tuned and the guy is claiming 600rwhp, doesn't worry me half as much as a 5.0 with the guy claiming 380rwhp
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i always heard the block was only good to 450rwhp before it cracked?
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Originally Posted by nomorews6
i always heard the block was only good to 450rwhp before it cracked?
It can do that #. We do a ton of Stangs. As for the block,yes they crack down the center pretty easy but it's ussually around 600+rwhp. It's funny as hell to take an intake off and the block literally is split down the center.
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I've split one before on Nitrous...Think of it as 2 inline 4-cyl motors when that happens. My times in my sig are with the stock block, calculate out the rwhp by the MPH w/3500lbs and you'll see I'm slightly above the recommended levels.
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Easily possible.

My stock 346ci LS1 with a 212/218 cam and cleaned up stock heads put down 514 through the auto on 5 psi.

I had a friend running a 306ci S-trim with a stock 302 block with a stud girdle, 235/245 solid roller, box-stock Edelbrock heads and intake with a C4 and 4200 stall and went 10.60s @ 126 and 9.70s @ 131 on a 75 shot.
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If it's a stock block and it's really making 550+ The it won't last long.I believe the stock block is rated at 450 hp.A freind of mine made low 500 rwhp on a stock 302 block and he blew freeze plugs every weekend from from the block twisting and it finally slip the block.
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Originally Posted by bodydropped
If it's a stock block and it's really making 550+ The it won't last long.I believe the stock block is rated at 450 hp.A freind of mine made low 500 rwhp on a stock 302 block and he blew freeze plugs every weekend from from the block twisting and it finally slip the block.
he should have put a girdle on it.
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there is no way that guy is making 560 rwhp with 36# injectors.
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very possible my buddy has a 347 afr heads victor jr intake 750 holley it puts out 478 na and 650 on spray.he won the mm&ff 11 sec true street in 06 at bristol by running 3 11.0 passes.im gonna build a 347 for my 95 some day
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Originally Posted by 50_Dave
there is no way that guy is making 560 rwhp with 36# injectors.
if so its lean as hell id think more like 55s
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ask for a dyno sheet
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Originally Posted by Phynix
thats easy numbers with that setup, but he does need a bigger exhaust, I have seen a all motor 347 run just under 480 rwhp sae. really all depends on how well everything is working together, I think its kind of funny, I see a 04 cobra with all the bolt ons, a whipple and tuned and the guy is claiming 600rwhp, doesn't worry me half as much as a 5.0 with the guy claiming 380rwhp
you'd be surprised what they make for less than $1500 u can put down 550rwhp easy in those cars.depending on the tune and amount of boost yeah he probly makes that much power.dont forget that he has dohc and his heads flow a lot better then the heads on your car.there are countless guy with the whipple and kb superchargers putting down 650-700rwhp with nothing more then the blower kb bust a pump maf and a tune.
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Seems a bit high, but possible. Looks like he is running a FMU yet so a 36lb injector would be enough since the FMU is pretty much a band aid for a good injector and tune. The block is a worry but I think if you don't detonate the hell out it they work.

Cousin has one on his fox and it does well also, but is very Sensitive to the outside air temp and if he makes back to back dyno runs he looses like 20hp or more cause of the intake air temps.

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Originally Posted by 50_Dave
there is no way that guy is making 560 rwhp with 36# injectors.
He could if he has an FMU. I made 570ish rwhp with 42# injectors and no FMU. Then again, it was 100% duty cycle at that point and starting to go lean.
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I've had over a half dozen customers make 575 RWHP with 302-306, TW 185 heads, S-trim and 12-14 lbs of boost.

Hey Andrew91GT, didn't you make 600 RWHP with a 302, T-trim and and TW 185's?
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Very possible, we're currently building a 331 with a D1SC 12rib set up with Victor Jr. Heads that should put down numbers in that area,our worry isn't the HP it'll be making, but the strength of the stock block.



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