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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Question T-56 to TH-400 loss??

I'm putting a Rossler built TH-400 with an ATI 8" coverter in here shortly, going from the T-56. The car dynoed at right around 380rwhp/372rwtq through the T-56 and a 12-bolt with 3.90's. How much rwhp can I expect to lose through the new tranny?
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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I would guess 20-40, but you WILL also loose some time at the track, and by loose, I mean gain. I know from experiance.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Torque numbers should go up though.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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I made about 400rwhp with a 4l60 and a 4400 stall and went to a th400 with a 4000 stall and went down to 362rwhp but went from running a 11.60 on motor to a 11.20, it wasnt a t56 but i hope that helps a little
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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was the 4l60e dyno with a locked converter, or unlocked
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I knew I was going to lose rwhp, but I am also fully aware that the dyno is for tuning purposes...and thats about it. I'm hoping to drop .5 seconds off my ET going from the T-56 to leaving at 4000 off the T-braked TH400. Then I'm hoping to drop another .5-.7 from a 100 wet shot through an 85mm plate. Am I hoping too much?? Or do you guys think these numbers are feasable?
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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friend of mine made the swap last year, he was running a M6 on his 383 powered ta... he made 497 thru the M6, did a th400 swap with a 4800 converter, and now makes about 435. Plan on a 70 hp loss +/-

Don't wory about it though, just go run it at the track and go a 1/2 second faster, never have to worry about another clutch, missed shift hurting the motor, etc.etc. Just please tell me you put a scatershield on teh tranny before you put it in... if you didn't please get the 5 lb csr carbon fiber shield and put it on.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
friend of mine made the swap last year, he was running a M6 on his 383 powered ta... he made 497 thru the M6, did a th400 swap with a 4800 converter, and now makes about 435. Plan on a 70 hp loss +/-

Don't wory about it though, just go run it at the track and go a 1/2 second faster, never have to worry about another clutch, missed shift hurting the motor, etc.etc. Just please tell me you put a scatershield on teh tranny before you put it in... if you didn't please get the 5 lb csr carbon fiber shield and put it on.
No scattershield...but I havn't got the tranny in the car yet. It goes in in about 2 weeks. Whats going to scatter...or blow up? Sorry for the noob question, but I'm new to automatics.
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The drum can explode... but it's really rare, you have to do somethign dumb like downshift it manually at high speeds.


The shield is just a relaly good idea, they aren't that expensive, will fit without too much work (will rub the floor a little, but not enough so you have to hammer anything) and it's just a good idea.

IMO, if you're putting a th400 in a 4th gen car, you're probably into the 11's and will need it noce you are in the 10's, so why not take care of it now.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 02SS:ZEUS
I knew I was going to lose rwhp, but I am also fully aware that the dyno is for tuning purposes...and thats about it. I'm hoping to drop .5 seconds off my ET going from the T-56 to leaving at 4000 off the T-braked TH400. Then I'm hoping to drop another .5-.7 from a 100 wet shot through an 85mm plate. Am I hoping too much?? Or do you guys think these numbers are feasable?

I agree, .7 is probably the most you'll get with only a 100 shot, but I wouldn't be suprised to see a .8 drop or .9 at the most. Alot depends on how your car reacts to the t-brake. I've seen cars that can't do any better on the brake vs. stalling. I personaly did better off the brake. I am assuming your talking quarter mile.
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i wanna see the results cause im about this close to doing the same thing and going 9s not just 10s
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