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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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347 Forged Rods & Pistons New Rebuilt Stock Short Block
TFS 225 Heads
Jessl 1.7 rockers
PRC Extreme Gold Valve Springs
FAST 90 Ported Intake
Nick Williams 90 TB
248-252 Dur 650 lift 112 or 110 Lobe Sep
42lb Injectors
Kooks 1 7/8 Headers
3 1/2 X-Pipe
Yank PT4400
Stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears

The goal with the car is to still be Streetable. Looking to run 6.80s in 1/8 mile @ 101 mph N/A.

Does this combo sound right to help me reach my goals? Please suggest any items that I can change on my setup to help me reach my goals with this car.

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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SEBLS1
347 Forged Rods & Pistons New Rebuilt Stock Short Block
TFS 225 Heads
Jessl 1.7 rockers
PRC Extreme Gold Valve Springs
FAST 90 Ported Intake
Nick Williams 90 TB
248-252 Dur 650 lift 112 or 110 Lobe Sep
42lb Injectors
Kooks 1 7/8 Headers
3 1/2 X-Pipe
Yank PT4400
Stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears

The goal with the car is to still be Streetable. Looking to run 6.80s in 1/8 mile @ 101 mph N/A.

Does this combo sound right to help me reach my goals? Please suggest any items that I can change on my setup to help me reach my goals with this car.

Thanks Everyone
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The TFS 215 heads are more desirable and will probably make more power on a 3.90" bore engine because that is what they were designed for, rather than the TFS 225's that were designed for a 4.00" bore engine.

The PRC Gold springs are 2 steps down from the standard spring that TFS puts on their heads, so that's a big NO-NO.

I would go with the Vengeance Vindacator cam or the ECS cam, both are proven 500 RWHP cams with the TFS 215's, everything else looks great to me. Hope this helps.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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I predict you make it exactly 6.23 inches before you blow the snot out of that 10 bolt!!!

Good luck, that is one nasty bitch you are putting together!!
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
I predict you make it exactly 6.23 inches before you blow the snot out of that 10 bolt!!!

Good luck, that is one nasty bitch you are putting together!!
I agree.

I think your exhaust choice is a little excessive. I think it would perform and fit better with 1 3/4 longtubes and 3 inch duals.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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sounds like a winner SEB and I think the 17/8 headers are right on the money!
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
The TFS 215 heads are more desirable and will probably make more power on a 3.90" bore engine because that is what they were designed for, rather than the TFS 225's that were designed for a 4.00" bore engine.

The PRC Gold springs are 2 steps down from the standard spring that TFS puts on their heads, so that's a big NO-NO.

I would go with the Vengeance Vindacator cam or the ECS cam, both are proven 500 RWHP cams with the TFS 215's, everything else looks great to me. Hope this helps.

I agree with the valve spring deal. TFS springs are I believe PSI springs. They are very nice and have excellent pressures. The cam is quite large for a head that is somewhat efficient. Whatever cam you do decide to go with grind it on a 108 or a 110lsa. It will run up top as well. Cutting it on a tight LSA brings the horsepower and torque curves closer together. it wont kill your top end pull.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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I also think the exhaust is excessive as well as the cam and you need more gear.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Everything looks good, except I say run a 4.33 and a 28in tire.
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with a cam like that, the exhaust seems fine to me(30 degrees of overlap) but the gear needs to be stepped up and I hope you plan to spin to 7500 or so..

Streetable? Thats all relative...
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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the 10 bolt is a bomb waiting to explode. budget for a 12 bolt , s60 or 9 inch. agreed on cam as well, a 240/244 or similar is a proven performer.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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I would take Brians advice on the heads and cam...then bring it to me when you are done for a speed density tune

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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
sounds like a winner SEB and I think the 17/8 headers are right on the money!
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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exhaust is too big. do 3". and u are not going to run 6.80's on a 10 bolt for more than maybe 1 night. as easy as autos can be on a rear thats just to much power to put thru one on a continual basis. if u have a tbrake forget it it wont last 1 run. and run atleast a 4.11 gear, u will be shifting that thing fairly high and a 3.42 will be weak imo. that with a 27" hoosier or et drag. or a 4.33 with a 28" tire.
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Originally Posted by ls2 bait
exhaust is too big. do 3". and u are not going to run 6.80's on a 10 bolt for more than maybe 1 night. as easy as autos can be on a rear thats just to much power to put thru one on a continual basis. if u have a tbrake forget it it wont last 1 run. and run atleast a 4.11 gear, u will be shifting that thing fairly high and a 3.42 will be weak imo. that with a 27" hoosier or et drag. or a 4.33 with a 28" tire.
Actually I ran the stock 10 bolt w/4.10's for nearly 2 years and 200+ passes in the high 10's low 11's (1.47-1.55) 60's and it never did break. The posi quit working and I couldn't hook as good so I pulled it. I even drove 6 hours to the track on occasion to run and decided the risk wasn't worth it anymore. Now that's depending on your car and brave...... and I would say stupid but it didn't strand me so I guess it wasn't.

With that in mind, it can survive in an auto for a while.

Regarding being streetable, I think your over camming. I was running a little old 224/224 .535 .535 with great success. It doesn't take that big cam to run good as long as the rest of the setup is dialed which it looks like you have most of it covered.
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Thank You everyone for you input on my setup. I agree with alot of you & I am going to change the setup as follows.

347 Forged Rods & Pistons New Rebuilt Stock Short Block
TFS 215 Heads
Jessl 1.7 rockers
FAST 90 Ported Intake
Nick Williams 90 TB
Vindicator Cam 240/244 .608/.596 112+4
42lb Injectors
Kooks 1 3/4 stepped 1 7/8 Headers 3inch Primary
3 inch True Duals
Yank PT4400
Stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears (FOR NOW) Will upgrade when money allows to 12 BOLT w/4.10 gears, But going to have to run the 10 bolt for now


QUESTION???? Should I mill the TFS Heads to 59 CC for more Compression. I am going to be running a 150 shot on this setup?

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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either that or run a cometic .040 gasket
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Originally Posted by SEBLS1


QUESTION???? Should I mill the TFS Heads to 59 CC for more Compression. I am going to be running a 150 shot on this setup?

What kind of piston are you running? Dished/domed/valve reliefs?
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
What kind of piston are you running? Dished/domed/valve reliefs?

Dished with Valve reliefs. I am shooting for 460 RWHP is my goal.
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