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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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What do you guys think.

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Seems a bit low to me, especially the torque. We are thinking the dyno reads a little low. My buddy with a afr/x4/90 setup only made 45x on the same dyno. Any input?
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Dynos and Stalled Autos don't mix well, try it on the track...
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Yea i did some racing last night and beat a h/c lt1 6spd pretty bad from a dig.

Ive never seen a h/c ls1 a4 or m6 with that low of torque though, but it does run good and its safe now. Before it was WAY lean and pulling timing. I have a mail tune before.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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My car makes great TQ and low HP, I just really have a hard time when it comes to trusting dynos on our Stalled Autos.

In my opinion, the dyno is great for tuning, you can see how each change can make a difference in power, but the REAL, HONEST story is told at the track by ET and trap speed.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 99ccz28
Yea i did some racing last night and beat a h/c lt1 6spd pretty bad from a dig.

Ive never seen a h/c ls1 a4 or m6 with that low of torque though, but it does run good and its safe now. Before it was WAY lean and pulling timing. I have a mail tune before.
The reason the torque looks so "low" is because the converter is locked.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
The reason the torque looks so "low" is because the converter is locked.
the funny thing is, my other buddy "onyx rock" whos graph is below, cam only made 397/366 on this same dyno. It blows my mind how a cam only car can make 20 morerwhp and 30 more rwtq than a H/C, stalled car. pretty much the same cam too.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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Doesnt seem right.. I made the numbers is sig cam only, but through an M6
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
the funny thing is, my other buddy "onyx rock" whos graph is below, cam only made 397/366 on this same dyno. It blows my mind how a cam only car can make 20 morerwhp and 30 more rwtq than a H/C, stalled car. pretty much the same cam too.
Nothing funny about it, its a geared and stalled auto. I'd expect the numbers to be lower than a cam only ls1 with stock gears (assuming its an m6).
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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No, onyx rock has an auto also.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Heres my graph,


My car was making 345 hp before the cam. I picked up 50hp with the 224 and Steves tune.
I told john we can run em to see how the cars stack up to each other.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by onyx_rock
Heres my graph,

My car was making 345 hp before the cam. I picked up 50hp with the 224 and Steves tune.
I told john we can run em to see how the cars stack up to each other.
If the cam only car wins, come see us, we're just down the road in Akron...
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Yea sounds good we will have to get together sometime. We have pretty much the same everything except heads. Thats crazy. We will see.
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Good deal. I should be around this weekend if you want to get together.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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BTW, Do you have any track times with that setup?
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Looks like the Cam timing is wrong.I've never seen a TR224 peak at 6500rpm before.Looks like the Cam timing is retarded.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Looks like the Cam timing is wrong.I've never seen a TR224 peak at 6500rpm before.Looks like the Cam timing is retarded.
:wed: I agree with that statement. Looks like the cam timing is at least 4 degrees retarded. Dynamic compression suffers as a result, low and mid-range torque is lost. Try advancing the cam 4 degrees. Check the timing chain for excessive slack too.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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How do I go about advancing the timing? By the chain? Also, if I have the timing advanced would I have to get it retuned? Thanks guys.

Onyx Rock - No, no track times yet.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
:wed: I agree with that statement. Looks like the cam timing is at least 4 degrees retarded. Dynamic compression suffers as a result, low and mid-range torque is lost. Try advancing the cam 4 degrees. Check the timing chain for excessive slack too.
I personally put the cam in both cars. I cant remember what cam was used in the cam and heads car but Im pretty sure its either the TSP or TR 224 cam. If I remember correctly I believe the timing chain that was used was the LS2 style timing chain. Maybe if u get a chance 99ccz28 bring ur car back up to me and we can check it out.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Hey thanks alot. Im going to race onyx rock soon and we will see how things turn out. Hopefully I dont lose cause if i do that must mean there is something wrong somewhere. Ill let everyone know how it goes maybe tomorrow.
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