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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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I was more refering to the mph than ET. Yes, lots of variables with the ET.. any kind of a clean run's MPH adjusted for DA and the known weight of the car is going to give you a good accurate HP number that's getting to the ground. Maybe I'm just too old school and not ready to accept a dyno as fact, because someone can mess with the computer and get whatever numbers they want. You can't really mess with mother nature and getting the car down to the big end.

This is not dircted at you, it just seems to be a trend for awhile now that people go out of their way to come into the Dynamometer results & Comparisons forum, and knock the dyno numbers.

It is usually this same person that makes 399rwhp with a cam, or 439 rwhp with H&C and happens to run decent ET's and mph because they decided to strip their car and spend $1000 on the suspension. Good for them, not my cup of tea.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
This is not dircted at you, it just seems to be a trend for awhile now that people go out of their way to come into the Dynamometer results & Comparisons forum, and knock the dyno numbers.

It is usually this same person that makes 399rwhp with a cam, or 439 rwhp with H&C and happens to run decent ET's and mph because they decided to strip their car and spend $1000 on the suspension. Good for them, not my cup of tea.
and trend I'VE seen lately has been:

"My dyno says I make more HP than you" instead of "I'll get to the trtaps faster than you".

It's the internet's fault since you obviously can't line up next to me.. but it's a ricer mentality and I don't like it. It's bench racing.. and bench racing sucks ***.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
and trend I'VE seen lately has been:

"My dyno says I make more HP than you" instead of "I'll get to the trtaps faster than you".

It's the internet's fault since you obviously can't line up next to me.. but it's a ricer mentality and I don't like it. It's bench racing.. and bench racing sucks ***.
That is the reason LS1Tech provides the luxury of BOTH a Dyno Results forum AND a Drag Racing forum
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
That is the reason LS1Tech provides the luxury of BOTH a Dyno Results forum AND a Drag Racing forum
You're right! I also noticed how the Dyno section is not among the Racing forums!

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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What is the difference between someone fudging a dyno number, and someone fudging a Track time, nothing......
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
What is the difference between someone fudging a dyno number, and someone fudging a Track time, nothing......
are you serious?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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are you serious?

All I am saying is you take someone at their word.

If I really wanted an 11.6, all I have to do is deep stage. If someone wanted another 10hp on the dyno, pump the tires up to 40psi.

Anyone can cheat to get what they want.

Are you going to add any value to this thread in the DYNO section? Or are you just another typical Head and Cam guy who is pissed that some cam only cars make more HP, so you have to devalue the results?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
All I am saying is you take someone at their word.

If I really wanted an 11.6, all I have to do is deep stage. If someone wanted another 10hp on the dyno, pump the tires up to 40psi.

Anyone can cheat to get what they want.

Are you going to add any value to this thread in the DYNO section? Or are you just another typical Head and Cam guy who is pissed that some cam only cars make more HP, so you have to devalue the results?

Deep staging would make your ET slower
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
Are you going to add any value to this thread in the DYNO section? Or are you just another typical Head and Cam guy who is pissed that some cam only cars make more HP, so you have to devalue the results?
I could care less if a max effort cam only car spinning to 7k+ makes as much power as my small cam and mildly ported + stock valved 243's. It doesn't matter, and certainly wouldn't **** me off. I'm not devalueing anything. I ask these high dyno cars what their 1/4 times were and how much they weigh. No one ever replies, they all get offended.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
This is not dircted at you, it just seems to be a trend for awhile now that people go out of their way to come into the Dynamometer results & Comparisons forum, and knock the dyno numbers.

It is usually this same person that makes 399rwhp with a cam, or 439 rwhp with H&C and happens to run decent ET's and mph because they decided to strip their car and spend $1000 on the suspension. Good for them, not my cup of tea.
Maybe their cup of tea isn't a lumpy unruly idle trying to go fast in a full weight car more likely to break stuff? Those kind of cars are made for car shows and cruise nights, where you can be real noisy and say "hey look at me!" and have a nice dyno graph to put in a frame by the engine for people to look at..

but if that's your cup of tea!
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Deep staging would make your ET slower
Thats what I meant...
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
Maybe their cup of tea isn't a lumpy unruly idle trying to go fast in a full weight car more likely to break stuff? Those kind of cars are made for car shows and cruise nights, where you can be real noisy and say "hey look at me!" and have a nice dyno graph to put in a frame by the engine for people to look at..

but if that's your cup of tea!
Lumpy unruly idle? Rock solid at 850rpms......sorry

Don't be a vindicator hater...there are too many of them already.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
Lumpy unruly idle? Rock solid at 850rpms......sorry
How can you say that and have an idle clip in your sig? You just owned yourself! You call that a smooth idle? and I'm sure it just stays right at 850.. never goes to 800, never climbs to 900.. whatever.. you can lie to make yourself feel better but you're still an idiot! I especially like how it almost dies after you rev it.. yeah.. that's normal.. but ok, just keep on the terminator, or vindicator, or eradicator, or masterbator.. whatever the name is..

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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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How can you say that and have an idle clip in your sig? I would hardly call that a smooth idle, and I'm sure it just stays right at 850.. never goes to 800, never climbs to 900.. whatever.. you can lie to make yourself feel better but you're still an idiot. I especially like how it almost dies after you rev it.. yeah.. that's normal.. but ok, just keep on the terminator, or vindicator, or eradicator, or masterbator.. whatever the name is..
I hardly call a 100rpm sweep an "unruly" idle. You must be some kinda p u s s y. The car has been retuned since the video was made, not that it was even bad in the video, but to a skirt like you I guess it was unruly...lol

I am really sorry my cam only car probably makes more HP than you, and for $1000 less. I am sorry for that.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Really? Well you don't.. and I know of stock internal cars that would beat you to the end of the 1/4 what's your point? You just proved you're a bench racer and nothing else.
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
I hardly call a 100rpm sweep an "unruly" idle. You must be some kinda p u s s y. The car has been retuned since the video was made, not that it was even bad in the video, but to a skirt like you I guess it was unruly...lol
If I was only half the man your wife probably is..
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Really? Well you don't.. and I know of stock internal cars that would beat you to the end of the 1/4 what's your point? You just proved you're a bench racer and nothing else.

Oh, I'm sorry. I am probably a FAST intake away from topping you. Actually, this is the dyno forum, as designated above. I guess everyone in here is a bench racer. LoL. You crack me up.

How much power are you making to the wheels anyway with that H/C monster?

Why such a weak dick H/C comboanyways, drivin granny to bridge every Sat night?
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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I am really sorry my cam only car probably makes more HP than you, and for $1000 less. I am sorry for that.
Wow.. you realized a big cam makes more power than a smaller one.. here's a cookie!

I'll enjoy shifting 1000 rpm's earlier, my better throttle response, and part throttle power.. all while being able to kill you in a 1/4.. I really don't see what your point is.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Wow.. you realized a big cam makes more power than a smaller one.. here's a cookie!

I'll enjoy shifting 1000 rpm's earlier, my better throttle response, and part throttle power.. all while being able to kill you in a 1/4.. I really don't see what your point is.

Killer, must be sweet to take offramps at 20mph, or have to turn up the radio over all those creaks and squeeks. Sweating you ace off in this heat with no A\C I bet. Must be a fun car.

Post you dyno graph, I am dying to see it.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
How much power are you making to the wheels anyway with that H/C monster?

Why such a weak dick H/C comboanyways, drivin granny to bridge every Sat night?
Um.. why do you care what I make? Is there some race with prizes at the end that I wasn't informed about? I never attacked anyone's numbers once. I attacked people fighting about dyno numbers, and wanted to know what these dyno queens are turning for real numbers. Do you also look down on people who buy a TR224 for more power with good drivability? You get off on throwing a cam in that barely clears ptv on stock heads and telling people they suck because they didn't do the same? and that it's perfectly drivable? Jesus man.. just how small is your dick anyways?

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