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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Well fellas right now im the proud owner of a 2001 SS camaro M6, but am considering going to a 05/06 GTO m6 simply because I would like a more streetable car with some power....im just wondering how yall think the two compare....the goats definately nicer but i love the SS so im just looking for opinions here....
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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I love my SS. I wouldn't give it up for a GTO if someone tried to make me. Plus I think the SS is a better stop light to stop light car just because of its ability to hook well and I think its a lighter car I believe.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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I test drove a 05 GTO when I was shopping for cars and it really didn't seem fast at all. The WS-6 felt faster stock for stock. Felt being the key word though. If you want more streetable power put a cheater cam or something like that in it. It'll act and sound like stock but with a whole lot more power. I wouldn't trade it, modding is so much more fun. Oh and about the weight difference the GTO weighs about 3800 lbs. its a pig. to about 3500 for your SS.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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if your going to do alot of strip racing i would say the f-body, but if this is going to strictly be a a to b car i would go for the goat........ and if i was gonna do a lil modding i would stay with the goat. make sure it is the ls2 not the ls1, the 5.7 is great and proven but it is old, ls2 is better imho...... FLAMESUIT ON!......
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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i have a 06 GTO now,used to have a H/C 98Z/28..
the GTO is a much nicer street car,IMO..much more enjoyable to drive,especially on long trips..the ride is a lot better,and even tho it is a pig,it "feels" lighter when going thru turns and in town traffic.
it all depends on what your looking for,i gave up more power for a comfortable ride,and a more refined car..
if you still have the mod bug,the F-bods are cheaper to buy parts for,FWIW..price a set of headers and mid pipes for a goat,you'll see what i'm talking about..just my .02
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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if you still have the mod bug,the F-bods are cheaper to buy parts for,FWIW..price a set of headers and mid pipes for a goat,you'll see what i'm talking about..just my .02
im definately worried about those prices!!!
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rocksws6
I test drove a 05 GTO when I was shopping for cars and it really didn't seem fast at all. The WS-6 felt faster stock for stock. Felt being the key word though. If you want more streetable power put a cheater cam or something like that in it. It'll act and sound like stock but with a whole lot more power. I wouldn't trade it, modding is so much more fun. Oh and about the weight difference the GTO weighs about 3800 lbs. its a pig. to about 3500 for your SS.
i think your right,but i have seen some low 13s high 12s from simple bolt ons and sticky tires on some GTOs..
the traction control takes a lot out of these cars from the factory,and when i dynoed mine last spring,it was running 11.8-1 at WOT stock,they run them pig rich from the factory..plus the weight factor sucks as well..helps the ride tho,lol.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 01riceeater
im definately worried about those prices!!!
yeah,it sucks,lol..sometimes i wish i would have kept my Z,and put a built 370 in it and bought a nice truck for a DD.but it is soo much more comfortable on long trips,and knocking off 27 mpg on the highway is cool..
I have since bought a predator handheld tuner,tweaked the 93 octane tune a little,and it definately helped..plus it automatcally deletes the traction control. now when i punch it from a stop,2nd spins like crazy and a little in third..my Z would walk on it,but for a 3800lb car,it goes pretty damn fast..
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I would love to have a GTO for a daily driver, but would never give up my T/A
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Goat for dd,the z for the weekend warrior! Jmo tho,lol!
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Don't do it, keep the SS.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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the goats are nice.. with some weight reduction and some bolt on's they can start to get quick.. but i would never let the camaro go for one
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I guess it's a bit of an apple to oranges comparison here..

What look are you going for? It depends on whether or not you're talking about an LS1 or LS2 Goat.

Not that I've owned either, but I've been around them plenty enough to have some kind of opinion on the matter. If you're comparing an LS1 Fbody to an LS2 Goat, you're going to get around the same ETs with the same mods, although the LS2 will be making more power. It's a heavier car and the squathappy IRS isn't God's gift to drag launches.

Driving around down and going about your usual pimparounds, the GTO is a winner hands down in comfort and refinement. The interior is top shelf **** and the IRS works it's magic to make the bumps vanish. The problem is that the thing is a tad heavy and alot more expensive than a Camaro. Again, we're comparing apples and oranges. If chasing down and murdering M3s and doing the damn thing in rich boy comfort is your thing, get'chu a Goat. The torque management set up blows but disablement is nothing more than a tune away. It's a great car, givin it's niche, but not exactly a drag hero.

The Camaro will handle the turns and hit the strip just as hard, but it's interior is crap by comparison and it's ride isn't exactly something to write home about. It's a lighter car and can do the same for cheaper and with less power, but it's not quite as refined. It lacks that whole torque management set up the GTO carries around and keeps it real with a straight axle rear end. Alot of people look at Fbodies as race cars in street clothing and, when compared to a Goat, I agree. It's everything the GTO is, but with less plush and refinement.

Personally, I'd stick with the Camaro. The GTO is as nice as it gets for a domestic, but it's a little too plush and comfortable for my tastes. The Camaro is simple, raw, and get's the job done.

Again, you're comparing apples and oranges here. It all comes down to what you want out of the car.

Drag ***** with cheap-minded simplicity? Stick with the Camaro

Lookin' for a poor man's Mercedes and a comfy ride? Get that Goat




I know I didn't say a thing about the LS1 Goat, but I don't really have any experience with one. It's everything the LS2 is, but less. Power-wise anyway.. If you're talking about refinement, it's got all the goodies. If you're just looking for speed, it'll probably be peepin' Camaro taillights mod for mod.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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Personally, I'd stick with the Camaro. The GTO is as nice as it gets for a domestic, but it's a little too plush and comfortable for my tastes. The Camaro is simple, raw, and get's the job done.

Again, you're comparing apples and oranges here. It all comes down to what you want out of the car.

Drag ***** with cheap-minded simplicity? Stick with the Camaro

Lookin' for a poor man's Mercedes and a comfy ride? Get that Goat
Well stated. Im addition, both the Z28/SS and the T/A look way better hands down. There's absolutely nothing you can do to a GTO to make it look as good as a lowered ram-air f-body with fat tires on street wheels (17"-18" wheels + 315s), tinted windows, etc. Then there's that "classic" LS1 sound....
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RaggedRides
I guess it's a bit of an apple to oranges comparison here..

What look are you going for? It depends on whether or not you're talking about an LS1 or LS2 Goat.

Not that I've owned either, but I've been around them plenty enough to have some kind of opinion on the matter. If you're comparing an LS1 Fbody to an LS2 Goat, you're going to get around the same ETs with the same mods, although the LS2 will be making more power. It's a heavier car and the squathappy IRS isn't God's gift to drag launches.

Driving around down and going about your usual pimparounds, the GTO is a winner hands down in comfort and refinement. The interior is top shelf **** and the IRS works it's magic to make the bumps vanish. The problem is that the thing is a tad heavy and alot more expensive than a Camaro. Again, we're comparing apples and oranges. If chasing down and murdering M3s and doing the damn thing in rich boy comfort is your thing, get'chu a Goat. The torque management set up blows but disablement is nothing more than a tune away. It's a great car, givin it's niche, but not exactly a drag hero.

The Camaro will handle the turns and hit the strip just as hard, but it's interior is crap by comparison and it's ride isn't exactly something to write home about. It's a lighter car and can do the same for cheaper and with less power, but it's not quite as refined. It lacks that whole torque management set up the GTO carries around and keeps it real with a straight axle rear end. Alot of people look at Fbodies as race cars in street clothing and, when compared to a Goat, I agree. It's everything the GTO is, but with less plush and refinement.

Personally, I'd stick with the Camaro. The GTO is as nice as it gets for a domestic, but it's a little too plush and comfortable for my tastes. The Camaro is simple, raw, and get's the job done.

Again, you're comparing apples and oranges here. It all comes down to what you want out of the car.

Drag ***** with cheap-minded simplicity? Stick with the Camaro

Lookin' for a poor man's Mercedes and a comfy ride? Get that Goat




I know I didn't say a thing about the LS1 Goat, but I don't really have any experience with one. It's everything the LS2 is, but less. Power-wise anyway.. If you're talking about refinement, it's got all the goodies. If you're just looking for speed, it'll probably be peepin' Camaro taillights mod for mod.
you hit the nail on the head.....great comparison.
although if they could have kept the weight down to the same as an F-Bod,the LS2 GTOs would be screamers..
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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I did basically the opposite of what you did. I actually fell in love with GTO's and bought an 05 when I had enough money. I didn't even look at F-bodies, I was set on a GTO. I bought a black 05 M6. The car is definitely nice and has a nicer looking interior. I felt like the car was fast, and it was stock. The payments started to get to me and my insurance went ont he rise. I looked into camaro's and trans am's because of the looks, price, and power. I sold my GTO and bought an 01 Camaro SS, black M6. I don't have any regrets at all. I think the camaro is comfy, better looking, and it handles better. The camaro weighs around 300-500 lbs less, so dont let the extra horsepower on the GTO fool you. However, with similar drivers, a stock LS2 GTO will edge out a stock F-body. I would tell you to stick with the Camaro, many who went from an Fbody to a GTO still really miss their Fbody, atleast the people that I know do. Just an opinion from someone who owned both. I still love the GTO's but I would prefer my current camaro. I use it on the steet, never been to the track, and it's a nicer car for the street if you're looking for power and handling. Many will say the GTO is more comfortable, but I really don't think so, and I'm 6'0 185lbs and it fits me like a glove. Can't beat the looks of one either. Both are great cars, DRIVE the GTO, compare them, and see which one suits you best. You can find an LS2 for around $20-$22k in nice shape. Fbodies can be had for about half that, but then again they are older. Have fun and be safe with whatever you decide on, whether you keep your camaro, or go with a GTO.
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