Help!! Something's Wrong!!
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Help!! Something's Wrong!! When my car was last dynoed back around Aug-Sep of last year I had Predator(custom tune), K&N Cai, and TB Bypass. She put down these numbers:
288 hp
316 tq
To me the hp was kinda on the low side but it was kinda hot/humid that day so I wasn't to worried. I added Borla CB and had them installed last January. I didn't have her dynoed but she showed improvement at the track.
I ordered Kooks Stepped Headers/Mid-pipes from Maryland Speed and had them installed today. Afterwards they did a few dyno pulls and here's what they got:
293 hp
306 hp
When they handed me the dyno sheet I nearly fell out. It definitely was hot/humid today but c'mon I only gained 5 hp and actually lost 10 lb/ft of torque with the addition of full exhaust!!!
Makes me wonder if I should've just got the regular Kooks 1 3/4 instead of paying extra for Kooks SS. Don't get me wrong she sounds lovely with the LT's but the untuned numbers are disapointing!! I still recommend Kooks Stepped Headers. They are a great design but my car didn't respond well to them.
After a few months when it cools down I'll see what the dynojet comes up with. I'll probably have to get a "dyno" tune to get the most out of her but I expected to get better results even untuned.
288 hp
316 tq
To me the hp was kinda on the low side but it was kinda hot/humid that day so I wasn't to worried. I added Borla CB and had them installed last January. I didn't have her dynoed but she showed improvement at the track.
I ordered Kooks Stepped Headers/Mid-pipes from Maryland Speed and had them installed today. Afterwards they did a few dyno pulls and here's what they got:
293 hp
306 hp
When they handed me the dyno sheet I nearly fell out. It definitely was hot/humid today but c'mon I only gained 5 hp and actually lost 10 lb/ft of torque with the addition of full exhaust!!!
Makes me wonder if I should've just got the regular Kooks 1 3/4 instead of paying extra for Kooks SS. Don't get me wrong she sounds lovely with the LT's but the untuned numbers are disapointing!! I still recommend Kooks Stepped Headers. They are a great design but my car didn't respond well to them.
After a few months when it cools down I'll see what the dynojet comes up with. I'll probably have to get a "dyno" tune to get the most out of her but I expected to get better results even untuned.
My car responded negatively right after the kooks were installed (321/315) but after the tune I came out at 369/353. I don't have a true baseline but most cts-v's pull around 330/330 on a mustang.
So...why didn't you get it tuned? Do you have a graph? What happened to your AFR? I'd suspect it's too rich.
So...why didn't you get it tuned? Do you have a graph? What happened to your AFR? I'd suspect it's too rich.
The stepped are a little much for what you have and being untuned isn't helping you at all. Also maybe you have some issues that you don't realize? Do you have an SES light?
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Launching!
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My car responded negatively right after the kooks were installed (321/315) but after the tune I came out at 369/353. I don't have a true baseline but most cts-v's pull around 330/330 on a mustang.
So...why didn't you get it tuned? Do you have a graph? What happened to your AFR? I'd suspect it's too rich.
So...why didn't you get it tuned? Do you have a graph? What happened to your AFR? I'd suspect it's too rich.
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Yeah it is running real rich. On top of that the GTO suffers badly from heat soak and it was very hot today so I suspect I was robbed 10-20 hp from the IAT sensor pulling timing. When it gets cooler in a few months I'll see what she puts down. She sounds lovely though. That Borla/Kook combination is higgly recommended.
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Here is a list of changes over standard Kooks headers-
1 3/4"-1 7/8" Stepped Primaries
Unique Stamped Merge Collector - Less aggressive merge than competition to not disrupt exhaust flow
2 front and 1 rear O2 sensor extensions (no need for separate 2004 and 2005/06 PT#'s)
Extra O2 bung for a wideband etc. welded on driver side (includes cap)*
Special Signature series primary badge with Kooks signature*
Works with all current Kooks 04-06 Mid pipes
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Launching!
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From: Savannah, Ga
Yeah it's LS1 GTO A4. I posted this in a GTO forum first. How much do you hp do you think heat soak robbed me?? It was 90+ degree's by time they dynoed it. Some people say 10-15 hp.
