ss.slp.ls1

iTrader: (36)

LOL at your continued arguements...did a S2K beat you in a race or something...jeez, let it be.

GMmexican

iTrader: (7)

that means that you wouldnt have any low end and your power band would be up to high to be real streetable.........hence why t-rex cams arnt recommended for cars that see alot of street use. I would personally want great mid-range in my car not an uber high rpm range

Irunelevens

I don't know how I missed this thread. You shouldn't have any problems against a stock S2000 in a bolt-on LT1. A stock LT1 would be a decent race (especially a 2.73-geared A4), but the S2000 driver would have to be ON HIS **** to make it good. As for the "I beat one in my stock TPI," and "I beat one from a roll in my Dakota R/T," give me a break...

99_Z28

iTrader: (3)

Why dont you update your avatar pic? Your mom should be back with it in a few hours?

Creman

iTrader: (10)

haha...dang

Irunelevens

That didn't make any sense.

phirepower

iTrader: (2)

You have earned my respect with your honesty.

S2000's are not **** boxes, I have been in a reasonably fast one

JD_AMG

Sorry Im just sick of seeing the ricer argument of "hp/l" yet no one can back up what is impressive or even relevant about it in the real world. If hp/l were important at all there wouldn't be so many LS1 swaps (almost all of which are swapping a higher hp/l engine for the LS1).

Irunelevens

It's not that it's "significant," but it does matter. It shows advancements in engine technology. When you do a h/c package on an LS1, you are increasing it's hp/l. So while it's not an end-all be-all argument, or even a viable comparison tool, it's isn't an invaluable achievement.

99_Z28

iTrader: (3)

I'll break it down for you....


1.Your avatar is of a Mustang that you sold 2 years ago.

2. Get a updated avatar pic of "your" new car.

3. But you will have to wait for your mom to get home from work with her car so you can take a picture of it.

Irunelevens

1. I sold the Mustang in June.
2. I can have whatever avatar I want
3. Attempt at a joke?

supernova1972

Yeah irunelevens! Dont you know the only thing you can have in your avatar is your current car! Geez!

nik1703

1. you guys are WAY off topic

2. what the hell?

3. buy monkey

4. ?????

5. profit

nichols92

In all reality intakes on imports dont do a thing, 9/10 times that is. Anything that was done to my car was done by Xtreme Motorsports here in St.Paul. They have since moved to Vegas under the name Sin City Performace. I know the car had an intake, exhaust, plug wires, fuel PSI regulator... like I said bolt on's
I am dyslexic , was 12.98. That was at RockFalls Raceway in Wisconsin in 2004.

Either way they are fast cars for what they are. It would be a good race non the less

Irunelevens

He started it (surprise), but I agree... what the hell?
One notable exception is the RSX-S... CAI is worth ten or fifteen hp at the wheels on those.

GMmexican

iTrader: (7)

JD_AMG

Yes and no. The big problem here is almost no manufacturer tries to squeeze as much power from their engines as possible. Most set a power/torque goal, and usually use a cost effective way to get there by modifying a current engine in production.
The LS1 for example was built ground up, but the platform is now used globally as both a performance engine and in truck applications. As anyone with any automotive knowledge can figure out GM didn't want any more than 345hp from the LS1, and anymore than 405hp from the LS6 etc etc. So this doesn't show any "technology advancements", it only shows what the manufacturer wants to make, and then uses what engine they want to get there.
Could GM make 505hp from the LS1 like the LS7 (and therefore make more hp/l)? Sure, but what advantages would there be to it? None. The LS7 is the same physical size, and same weight as all the other LSx based engines, and the added displacement improves the torque curve and drive-ability.
What about Honda, why did they add another .2L of displacement to the f20c in the US market, but not increase the power?

You add to overall hp, not just peak hp like hp/l implies. And if you want a legitimate argument then hp/l must go both ways. In other words there must be an advantage to decreasing displacement but keeping the peak hp, which there is only disadvantages to (cost, powerband, reliability).

Now if displacement was limited, and manufacturers were forced to all use the same engine then and only then would hp/l be even remotely relevant.

Irunelevens

There is most certainly an advantage to decreasing displacement. It depends what the car was designed to do. The DZ302 was after-all, for all intents and purposes, a destroked 327. Because the short stroke lended itself better to higher revs and road racing. The F20C was stroked out to 2.2 liters because Honda wanted to shift the power/torque curves lower, and they achieved their goal. And I'd wager when the LS1 was designed, the designers did have hp/l in mind. The fact that they wanted to keep it at 5.7 liters and increase the horsepower significantly kinda lends credibility to the theory. Otherwise, what would be the point in designing a whole new motor? They could have just made the LTx motors larger.

RaggedRides

iTrader: (8)

Ehh....


I've run one of those bastards in my Camaro. He had just got done doing a few doughnuts so his tires were good and warm. Hell, I could damn near see them dripping onto the tarmac. Excellent driver, that kid; a decent drifter. He launched the **** out of that torqueless wonder and left me looking silly off the line as I spun those cold, bald eighteen inchers. After babying it into hooking and giving it hell, I caught up and blew past him at around 65-70 and proceeded to putting about four on him before shutting down around the quarter mark. Despite rolling on maypops, I really could have handled the launch a little better.

The car was quick off the line and I'd expect low 14s or high 13s at the track. I've managed a 12.9 in my own, so the outcome was pretty predictable.

wicked383lt1

I was told by a mechanic that a 91' camaro 5.7 TPI would walk a LT1 f-body all day. Is that true? By the way just woop that ***** ***. It's a honda!!