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How do your head/cam Ls1 cars stand up to a c6 z06?

Old 06-16-2010, 11:45 AM
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Default How do your head/cam Ls1 cars stand up to a c6 z06?

Just wondering how different setups fair up against one of these cars stock, or minor mods.

I know there is discrepency to how well the c6 Z06 runs so I was seeing how everyone elses setup runs against them.
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This doesn't really belong here, maybe the bench racing section or the lounge.
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I just figured to put it in here because more then likely somebody with a heads cam car has found one to play with on the street.
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I ran into a as factory bone stock c6 zo6 at the lot one time and raced him from a dig 1/4 mile race and I beat him by 1 1/2 cars. My car puts down 400rwhp and runs 12.06 at 115 with a 1.86 60ft. hope this helps
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full weight head/cam ls1 might be same rwhp (450 to 460'ish).. but 427 power band is way better, better gearing, less weight.

3100 lbs vs 3600/3800lbs. You are going to need 50rwhp over the z06 to run even with it to make up for the 500'ish lb difference unless drivers are not even, gearing or weight are changed. Just my 2 cents.
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Never tried it myself but I just saw a vid on streetfire last night.....not sure how both drivers were but an all motor heads cam LS1 with 516 RWHP raced a C6Z and they were pretty dead even. Basically whoever got the jump after the third beep had a nose and thats about where it stayed. Didn't list any mods to the Z06 so I don't know if it had bolt ons or not.
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Originally Posted by InsomZ
full weight head/cam ls1 might be same rwhp (450 to 460'ish).. but 427 power band is way better, better gearing, less weight.

3100 lbs vs 3600/3800lbs. You are going to need 50rwhp over the z06 to run even with it to make up for the 500'ish lb difference unless drivers are not even, gearing or weight are changed. Just my 2 cents.


That is probably true on the street and for roll races but your average bone stock c6z has problems keeping up at the track with 400 rwhp stalled a4 fbodies. They have killer high end but not so great 60' capabilities. Now I would imagine that a drag radial equipped z06 with a good driver would be pretty tough at the track but still I'm thinking a 400ish rwhp car would be a good race.

Here's my stock internal transam on a 150 shot running a bone stock c6z06. The f-body was spitting and sputtering on the nitrous but still hurt the vette's feelings. The stock internal was running 12.3 off the bottle and would have been a better race without the juice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz4IFpYjft0

I ran a bone stock one the other day and he ran a 12.7 at 118..... Sure he could have run a 12.0 and maybe a 11.7 with good air and a good launch but that's no quicker than a decent full weight cam only f-body.

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they dont stand up they falls down
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That is interesting actully that they dont get a good 60 foot.

I ran one brand new 2010 with the spyder wheels and only had him by a car from a 40 roll on the e way I thought it was a very fast car.

I never considered what would happen from a dig though
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Sorry to burst the bubble guys but I think a C6 Z06 will beat/destroy any fbody thats not 450rwhp, unless the driver suck.

They have a 200-400lbs advantage with a lot of power/gear/torque.

But I have no problem believing a well setup fbody can hurt a C6 Z06, like the one in the vid. Its only a matter of traction/Suspension/Tires/Trans on the 1/4 IMO. A roll would be another story...

I ran a 12.6@117 with a shitty 2.2 60ft and I cant say I would kill a Z06. I'd say if the driver is any good and got traction, I'll look pretty bad compared to him. But still, I have no traction too..
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I wonder why h/c/i LS1s with 346 c.i. have made over 1.445 rwhp/c.i. but LS7s haven't? I haven't seen any true 600+rwhp combos and to match the LS1's specific output, the Z06 should be putting down 617 at the wheels. What, with regard to the LS7 would cause inferior specific-output power production when compared to a built LS1?
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from a dig its NOM NOM NOM i have never seen a c6z put an embarassing hole shot to a cam only or h/c f body. once you hit about 60-80 though i hope you have some paces on em cuz itll reel you in quick. johnnystock is right if you run em from a highway roll you might as well just start waving goodbye at 100 cuz youll never catch em at high speeds unless your puttin down solid numbers.
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well everybody i think hit the nail on the head on this one. Dig 1/4 mile, both cars and drivers have to be on there game, from a roll the c6 zo6 will own you if you are not overpowering the zo6 by at least 50
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Originally Posted by danger ds
well everybody i think hit the nail on the head on this one. Dig 1/4 mile, both cars and drivers have to be on there game, from a roll the c6 zo6 will own you if you are not overpowering the zo6 by at least 50
IDK man. My cars race weight is 3600lbs and I have a stock bottom end H/C/I LS1 that has outran a Stock C6Z06 from a dig and a roll. The stock ones around here normally trap around 120mph and I trapped 123mph in good weather and 121-122 in the heat with a heat soaked engine. With this new tranny I am about to install I should see at least another .2-.3 tenths and 2-3 more mph in the 1/4. I will update as soon as I can get this damn thing installed.
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Good luck.

I ran door to door with a awesome driver of a brand new ls3 corvette. 40-140. A z06 with a good driver will murder you from any kind of roll.
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Here is a video of 420-425rwhp C5 vs stock C6 ZO6...

Keep in mind the 00 C5 weight 3300lbs not like the F-body 3550-3600lbs
and have the drive mod

You just can't beat the Mid range power and TQ from the damn 427ci LS7


IMO For F-body you need 40-50rwhp to beat/ keep up with C6 ZO6 from 50-160mph also driver mod is a must ZO6 can pull all the way to 160mph in 4th gear if drive of F-body slow shifted from 4th to 5th gear say around 140mph he will LOSE...

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewMTaGfMVBQ


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I have raced quite a few H/C Fbodies..Even 408 ci Fbodies pushing 480 rwhp...

I beat them all and tied the 408 ws6 pushing 480 rwhp. I actually beat the 380-440 rwhp H/C fbodies pretty easilly in my bolt on Vipers..

they made good power but 3500-3600 verses my 3380 pounds and big TQ advantage made them pretty easy pray..

The 408 how ever was very good races at 480 rwhp when my Vipers were 440-460 rwhp (raced him in two differant vipers) got a vid some were..

Thats the fbodies with around 450 rwhp..the C6z06 on the other hand with just 450 rwhp is a monster..

Sure at only 460 rwhp on the viper i could sometimes beat him when he was stock say from 0-130 mph..pretty much a toss up..but once you hit 130 plus mph those things just start walking...

heres a vid of a stock c6Z06 (camera car) verses a 500-550 rwhp supra verses my at the time 460 rwhp Viper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2rBiMEyI84

457 rwhp intake/exhaust 2003 viper vs stock 455 rwhp Z06 vs 550 rwhp high boost and meth supra..

pretty amazing how the stock vette crept back up and was a 1/4 car ahead when we all shut down for an on coming curve

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Originally Posted by BlkBird2000
Good luck.

I ran door to door with a awesome driver of a brand new ls3 corvette. 40-140. A z06 with a good driver will murder you from any kind of roll.
Yea but I make a lot more hp than you do and run 8 more mph in the 1/4mile
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Originally Posted by Killemall
I have raced quite a few H/C Fbodies..Even 408 ci Fbodies pushing 480 rwhp...

I beat them all and tied the 408 ws6 pushing 480 rwhp. I actually beat the 380-440 rwhp H/C fbodies pretty easilly in my bolt on Vipers..

they made good power but 3500-3600 verses my 3380 pounds and big TQ advantage made them pretty easy pray..

The 408 how ever was very good races at 480 rwhp when my Vipers were 440-460 rwhp (raced him in two differant vipers) got a vid some were..

Thats the fbodies with around 450 rwhp..the C6z06 on the other hand with just 450 rwhp is a monster..

Sure at only 460 rwhp on the viper i could sometimes beat him when he was stock say from 0-130 mph..pretty much a toss up..but once you hit 130 plus mph those things just start walking...

heres a vid of a stock c6Z06 (camera car) verses a 500-550 rwhp supra verses my at the time 460 rwhp Viper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2rBiMEyI84

457 rwhp intake/exhaust 2003 viper vs stock 455 rwhp Z06 vs 550 rwhp high boost and meth supra..

pretty amazing how the stock vette crept back up and was a 1/4 car ahead when we all shut down for an on coming curve
Sorry to tell you brotha but I've outran Vipers like yours to. From a 40-50mph with a stock Z06 I would pull out about a car to a car in a half and hold it there untill about 120-130 where the Z06 would start to come around me. From a dig I will just murder a stock Z06. I've done it a few times at the track against my cousins car. I would say him and I could get a rerun in and get it on video but his car is built, cammed and sprayed now. Don't think it would be a fair race unless you guys just want to see me get my *** handed to me? lol
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that vid was before my titanium exhaust/sct tune/light weight fly wheel and under drive pully..

no prob with a stock Z06 now..

At the drag strip is really irelevant..Thats all about the driver..I saw so many C5Z06 guys run 13's at my track..the fastest i ever saw a stock one go in 5 years was 12.9..I know they are faster than that..but the drivers wernt..

I know it feels good when you beat a car from a dig..

but honestly both in third gear at 75 mph and hitting it and both just makeing that easy shift to 4th and holding on till 150 mph will really tell you wich car is faster and not who's the better driver...

In this kinda race even a stock Z06 is a monster. no doubt..i belieave 520 rwhp would be needed on a fbody to actually pull a length on a stock Z06 to 150 mph..

sure in the 1/4 mile anything can happen..theiur are guys running 12.7's at 117 mph in c6z06's...BUT THERE IS THE OTHER END OP THE SPECTRUM WITH STOCK z06'S RUNNING 10.9-11.3 AT 126-128 MPH THAT CANT JUST BE DISMISSED

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